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What is a good alternative to proton mail these days?

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What in the spam username is this?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I want to say... Some sort of self hoster with a cheap domain going for the "security through obscurity" approach...

https://crt.sh/?q=91268476.xyz

I'll let you explore, but definitely a self hoster!

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

.com’s are 10 bucks. How cheap could it be??

[–] towerful@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago

Free for a year or so, depending on where you register

[–] Mora@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The 1.111B class (basically the numbered domains) cost ~1 dollar/yr.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

If you're self-hosting something for your own use, there's nothing better than the dollar .xyz domains, as that's literally what they were priced like that for. Dunno if I would use them for public services, though.

[–] ctag@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

After trying and failing to get used to Proton's UX, Fastmail has been great.

[–] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Been using Fastmail for a few years now. I really like it.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 months ago

I've been a Runbox customer for many years. Never had a problem. Runbox is operated from privacy-respecting Norway.

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I guess I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with Proton?

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Its CEO is kissing Trump's ass.

[–] yool_ooloo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

really? that sucks. really? i am genuinely so disappointed, jeez

[–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago

Always has been a sketchy company - any company who claims Swiss privacy laws are good (and in reality operates out of the US) is lying to you.

[–] poldy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same answer as last time this was asked, I am very happy with Posteo.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No implying that asking multiple times is bad.

We should all be asking about and offering alternatives, a lot. Over and over.

[–] courval@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I'm not really adding to the question but we need alternatives for a lot of apps.. Fb, Instagram, WhatsApp,etc it's impossible for me to ditch them all without loosing contact with friends/family.. any other threads going on about this? Maybe have a general thread and subsequent migration movements, we really need to act on this social life monopoly we've became hostages to..

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's the problem with WhatsApp? Aren't the chats encrypted?

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Whatsapp is owned by meta

Not a shitty product, but the company is shit unfortunately

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Tuta, StartMail, Mailbox all have good reputations for privacy respecting services.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago

StartMail is owned by an advertising company, it's not a better choice whatsoever.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Until they don't.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Can vouch for mailbox.org.

I've been using their 1€ per month tier for a year now, everything has worked well.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago
[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago
[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Too fucking funny. This is because of the various bad news, right? So fucking funny. Everyone and their dog bragging about proton mail the last few years and you're a moron if you haven't switched blah blah blah.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I mean, it is still objectively way better than most / all mainstream solutions. The issues is with the CEO's political stance, nothing about the technical implementation details or anything the company did wrong with managing your data.

I'm still interested in supporting a different company because of it, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Proton over Gmail any day.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

"Corporations are never your friend."

But this one is different! It's non-profit!

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Kolabnow is great.

[–] slowroll@r.nf 2 points 5 months ago

any already mentioned here + using your own domain name

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

mailbox.org seems pretty good. No apps though. And setting up syncing for calendar and contacts takes a bit of work. but once it's working, it's good. I'm using thunderbird mobile for mail and DAVx5 to sync contacts and calendar.

[–] pi49mhsbh@feddit.rocks 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

OOTL.

Whats the issue with Protonmail ?

[–] bigboismith@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The ceo promoted Trump. They offer a crypto wallet. Nothing wrong with their products per say, mostly politics. L

[–] pi49mhsbh@feddit.rocks 0 points 5 months ago
[–] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 5 months ago

Sadly the best product mail-wise is currently MS Exchange online. Privacy wise Posteo is probably the best.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

disroot

autistici

[–] fleet@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

I've been using PurelyMail for over a year now and it's been solid. Probably aimed more at tech-minded folk though.