First he'd need to convince the army to follow his orders. It's a lot harder to paint Canadians as "evil minorities" in order to get the rank and file to "just follow orders".
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We've seen it happen 1000s of times in history. Soldiers do as their told. If Trump says invade, it will happen. They are purging any internal resistance as we speak do in a few months, if he says invade we will get invaded.
Resistance is not futile, the USA has not prevailed (single-handedly) against resistance movements in any country of our size in their history. IEDs are cheap, effective, and relatively easy to make. Canada has farms with fuel oil and fertilizer, and lots of firearms.
I have always been a peaceful and patient person, but there is no way I'm letting a fascist foreign government take over. I would gladly even suicide bomb a foreign invader if it thrwarted their advance and protected my adult kids , and fellow country members, future.
It's even worse. The US hasn't won against an insurgency ever in its entire history. And really, it hasn't won a single conventional war since WWII either to be honest.
While one side would be forced to fight for its right to exist, the other would be forced to weigh the costs of doing an occupation for decades. Not to mention the hit to moral and public support, which in turn translates to support from your own military.
Frankly speaking, I think the US's own military would refuse to move if ordered, and Trump'll have to replace most of the leadership to make them comply. And even then, there's the thought that most of the soldiers themselves wouldn't want to raise arms against their longest standing ally.
Many of Canada's firearms are outdated in a military sense and the government has been continuing to ban more guns. Many fire arms currently owned by canadians would have already been considered obsolete by the cold war, especially if we are comparing our stockpile to America's.
You're just as dead if you're shot by a Ross rifle or Lee-Enfield as by a whizbang gizmo-addled wank-rifle with 10 attachments and a CDROM drive.
Sure, but a magazine of 5 in a semi automatic is still a lot less shots than a magazine of 30 in a fully auto rifle. Modern military body armor has come a long way and being a neighbour, america has many naval and air bases already built and fully loaded within striking distance. A surprise strike could significantly cripple canadian military resources.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is arguing that the Canadian military wouldn't get roflstomped in hours. It's more about the insurgency afterwards, I'd say.
Not all the American occupiers can be armed and wearing body armour 100% of the time. They have to sleep and piss occasionally.
Asymmetric war is just so asymmetrical.
Yep, people will fight hard to defend against a foreign invasion. We're seeing it with Russia and Ukraine right now.
If you think about it, all we have to do is each Canadian has to eliminate 10 Americans. Not necessarily kill, just remove from combat. That can be through befriending so they stop fighting, incapacitating through a biological agent against which, as Canadians we have been vaccinated, diverting to another enemy, or actually taking out. And really, we'd only have to target the white combatants, the way they're going nowadays.
Facetiousness aside, I agree with your point. And thanks for sharing. What we probably have to watch out for is thd cultural warfare that recruits Canadians against Canada.
Nah
Canada has to kill only a few thousand soldiers and the US population will be ready to revolt
The US would initially run over Canada. Let there be no mistake there, it always does. Saying this as a proud almost Canadian, this US armed forces will overwhelm any country in the world.
Having said that.
The US hasn't won a single war since WWII. It'll overwhelm whatever country it invades and then inevitably gets it's ass kicked from here and back to the US again. Anyone remember Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq?
If the US decides to invade Canada, it will sign it's own death certificate.
The piece you're missing is that all those wars after WW2 they weren't fighting to save the world. They were fighting to line the pockets of the military industrial complex (and big oil) that sprouted up around post WW2 America. The goal wasn't to "win" it was to funnel as much money into the pockets of several already rich and powerful cunts as possible.
If there was actually a threat to American citizens and we wanted to delete that threat entirely we would have absolutely no issues completely leveling pretty much any foreign nation with or without nukes.
Canada's actually military would be a speed bump for ours. Nothing.
But dealing with the global backlash and potential escalation to nuclear war would be an unmitigated disaster for not only the US but the whole world.
We may not know exactly what would happen in the fallout after the hypothetical invasion but I think we can all agree it would be very bad for pretty much everyone on the planet.
I'm a USian and was home schooled by conservative Christian parents, so please forgive my ignorance.
If Canada was attacked, would the Crown be obligated to help defend you? Or are commonwealths on your own?
To clarify: "The Crown" is often a short-handed statement for the executive government, which is basically the Cabinet for the PMO (Prime Minister's Office) - all the Ministers of different government departments. Symbolically, they work in the interest of the de jure (written in law) authority of Canada, which would be the Monarchy in Britain (who is also symbolically head of state for every other Commonwealth nation). Now, as to touch on the British Commonwealth (since "The Crown" in Canada would basically be decimated in a conventional confrontation with the US):
It would turn into an existential crisis for everyone, I assume. A lot of "every man for himself" sort of mentality, but I assume there would be those who would want to fund a Canadian resistance (even if paltry) simply on the notion that an Imperial America is a FAR worse threat than anything Europe had faced before (expansionist policies, current global economic power, utterly disconnected from mainland Europe and the largest navy and airforce combined... kind of a worse situation than Fascist Germany, since it would be far more difficult to deal any direct damage to US infrastructure from the other side of the pond).
I'll be honest, I would have no idea if the Commonwealth would actually step up in a way that is remotely similar to what we have done for Ukraine. I would honestly expect more help from Mexico and Latin Americans than I would the Commonwealth, as they would see that the US would be a very tangible threat at this point and also share the all-too-important land boarder.
I hate to say it, but I don't actually think they would (I might be wrong)... For a country like the UK to jump in, it needs its population to be in support. If it jumps into an armed conflict without the support of its population, it will have its own revolution to deal with.
I think we'll see a similar, albeit more committed version of the type of response Ukraine received... Military equipment aid, sanctions against US, humanitarian aid.
The same goes with NATO Article 5... US makes up the majority of NATO funding contributions, and European countries have to contend with a continuously brazen Putin... With US threatening to pull away from NATO, it would be countries like Poland and Germany that will step up against Russia, so no capacity to support Canada...
I really really really hope I'm wrong.
It fucking sucks all around.
Idk how it won’t end well for him given how he ran out the clock and didn’t see a single day of justice.
That was Trump v. The American legal system.
If it comes to a head on confrontation; it'd be Trump v. Canada in gorilla warfare. We'll bring our own justice, and probably add a few more pages to the Geneva Conventions while we're at it. We're good at that.
Wait. We have gorillas in canada for warfare? Or is that US?
Apologies,
Guerrilla* warfare
Though gorillas could be a good wildcard...
They'd need flannel
Do we have any rules against gorillas in war?
Would you like some? 🇨🇦
Well that's just prime.
The next thing will be trump visiting Canada and another staged “assassination” to galvanize the less intelligent Americans into supporting “peacekeeping” in Canada.
Or they’ll just dress someone up as what they think is Canadian in the US and try the same line down there.
I never thought I'd say this, but bring back George Dubya