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The Lord of the rings memes communitiy on Lemmy. Share memes about Lord of the rings and be respectful.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 77 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not analogy, it's allegory. It applies too well to the world.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

True. But in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, "widely applicable" and "allegorical" are nearly synonymous. But I'm also a fan of the quote, history does not often repeat itself - but it rhymes. So whether it's fictional history or rough allegory, the end result is the same.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, “widely applicable” and “allegorical” are nearly synonymous

Ha. You're the second person to have suggested that, so maybe there is something to it. But to be honest I'm not sure I agree. I don't think I'd ever use the term allegory without authorial intent. (But to save repeating myself, I'll just direct you to my reply to @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz.)

Or, at the very least, even if you are inclined to disregard authorial intent, there's still a subtle difference between allegory and applicability in that allegory requires an almost direct one-to-one relationship between the text and various elements of the real world, while applicability can be much more subtle or broad strokes. Basically, applicability is a broader term than allegory, a superset.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Dear sir, may I refer you to my previous rebuttal to the esteemed colleague @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz

I can't xD

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fuck you on about, mate? You got a problem with allegories?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I dunno if you're just memeing or if you genuinely don't know.

In case it's the latter…I posted a fairly famous quote from the author responsible for the text this community is based on.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

I really didn't know, so thanks for explaining it.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Europe after stopping fighting the most brutal and effective wars for centuries:

You're sure you want us back? We'll be united this time too.

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

I will draw you, Donald, as poison is drawn from a wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIjVKbxuec&t=128

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Murica, land of the free, was founded by people who owned slaves. While speaking about the evils of slavery.

So the madness was always there.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Legend says it started with Trump getting a dirty sanchez in a Moscow brothel.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I was there the day the strength of men failed.

[–] prinzmegahertz@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The US is just Helldivers 2 in real life. A democracy managed by Elon Musk and people ready to die for „liberty“, „prosperity“ and „freedom“.

[–] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't make me feel bad about my beloved Helldivers!

[–] Kurroth@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Sorry to say most people don't get it or starship troopers.

[–] prinzmegahertz@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Don’t feel bad. It’s not the devs fault that we live in a strange timeline

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

We live in a country that was stolen then we stole some other people so they could do the work for us. Then conquering half a continent wasn’t good enough for us, so we went around ruining other places if they didn’t want to give us all their stuff. If people think we only recently crossed a line, I’d generously hope they were just ignorant because the alternative is horrific. Every piece of the past is a step that got us to where we are.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Friesengard

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Europe must join together send to shit USA and go full Gandalf the White

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

More importantly, why is EU Gandalf supporting so many pro-Sauron leaders when they have USA Saruman's fall as a cautionary tale right in front of them?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh, my friend

How did you come

To trade the fiddle for the drum

[–] nomoredrama@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It was right around the time he got shot and made that fake fist pump. Also when he started considering that scum bag - obama a friend.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

[Insert Always has been meme]

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