A place to post examples of chaotic good actions.
Guess your lot didn’t read the Beveridge Report: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beveridge_Report
I’d say you’d be better off putting away money in a savings account for medical bills, but I’ve heard stuff that makes me suspect the insurance companies already shut off that avenue (e.g. prescription meds cost way more off prescription).
except that luigi didnt kill anyone and he's very obviously being framed
Based on what's leaked on how the bag, presumptuive murder weapon and evidence was handled this is completely true.
The Luigi Paradox: He's not Guilty, but still a Folk Hero.
Not a paradox. He is doing two things that are absolutely worthy of respect.
Firstly he is an innocent young man who is being dragged through hell for a crime he did not commit. He is suffering unjustly for a crime he did not commit. Many people have gone through that and he deserves to be not only acquitted but so fully exonerated that the system is forced to compensate him for his unjust treatment.
Secondly, the cover provided by this case allows the real killer to remain hidden. I seriously doubt they would ever find the guy and the credibility of the prosecution would be so utterly smashed that even if they actually found the guy they might not make a move for fear of a public backlash. They might murder the guy, but that only proves they are far worse than any murderer.
So not only is Luigi innocent he is a hero, and I hope the real killer lives a long and quiet life.
They might murder the guy, but that only proves they are far worse than any murderer.
But they'd get away with it, as they always do.
Man that list would look very differently if all those assassinations of Hitler and Stalin hadn't failed.
Yes, I noticed that progressives are far more likely to be assassinated than tyrants in modern times. Funny that.
I see this sentiment expressed, but is there any evidence to support it? If he were really being framed, I'd expect his family, friends, lawyers, etc to be trying to spread that message as much as possible and publicly show that he couldn't have done it. Like publicly present his alibi or something?
I have no problem with killing the CEO. Even if there were 100% irrefutable evidence Luigi did it, I'd still think Luigi was a good guy.
Why do people think he's being framed?
The cop was rifling through his bag for a couple of minutues, closed the bag and took it away for 10m, came back, started searching the same bag again and this time managed to find a gun.
There's been a blatant push by media to forward the idea that Luigi did it. All they have to do is ... not report evidence to the contrary. What there IS, however, is a lack of evidence that he did it, if you take into consideration the fact that NYPD - who have a history of faking evidence - probably used a gun and fake manifesto to pin the crime on him. Innocent until proven guilty has gone out the window; even news outlets aren't bothering to hedge their language with 'alleged' any more.
You actually have it backwards, it's innocent until proven guilty and so far the prosecutors weren't able to produce any usable evidence. So no one has to prove that Luigi didn't do it just like no one has to prove you or I didn't do it
Still can't fathom why they would go with a dude that's the reincarnation of Ridiculously Photogenic Guy tho
Often, the argument against murder as a means of defending oneself against the bourgeois rule is the inability to pinpoint its direct beneficial effects. Well, here they fucking are : murdering fascists is good for your health -in fact, it can save your life !
This is a fun story, but Luigi didn't kill anyone. It was the Adjuster
Correct, Innocent until proven guilty.
Got to keep reminding people of that while things play out. I do hope his defense is able to prove that the chain of custody of the evidence is suspect and that luigi isnt their guy, but we're seeing the trial play out through the media anyway, and they seem to have made up their mind...
Luigi is unfortunately more than just a person at this point, theres 'Luigi' the flesh and blood human and then theres 'Luigi' the symbolic martyr robinhood saint of the modern oppressed empoverished.
The actual court case and the real human being have become secondary to the abstract symbol giving a face to peoples frustrations and vengeance fantasies. Many people want him to be the one who did it to make the cultural icon legend a for sure reality. If Luigi were proven innocent many people would believe anyway and go wink wink nudge nudge. If he's proven guilty, it only furthers the martyrdom and fuels the fire which is what protestors ad anarchist really want more. Is a win win from a bystander pov.
People will believe whatever they want until proven otherwise and spout bullshit on the internet anyways but throw a dash of emotional bias into the mix and it really starts to cook.
Luigi has the wrong eyebrows and not enough people are talking about that
well that's great for this one person but this is just an anecdote, and not reliable data. we need more data points to create a large enough sample size so we can refer to more reliable statistics. i wonder how we could get that.
Trading one horrible motherfucker for even one of his potential victims is absolutely enough for me. I don't need further statistics.
Edit: in light of my brain recently being reactivated and understanding what the comment was saying, please disregard my low IQ comment and let the science commence!
No dude, they’re saying that we need to repeat the experiment
performative gasp i would never!!!
Oh yeah. Yeah! We need to robust science on this shit. The more data points we have, the more reliable the research, right? Heck yeah, let's get on with it then!
That’s just responsible statistical analysis, any good scientist will tell you there should be several tests for a proper experiment.
GLORY AND HONOUR TO MANGIONE!
Yeah, I was getting jerked around about precisely how the prescriptions got filled around the time that it happened, and there was going to be some bullshit about Blue Cross not covering the medication because it wasn't bottled while Venus was in retrograde or what the fuck ever, and then it was magically covered. The coincidence wasn't lost on me.
So if you have a brain tumour they won’t pay for it? Forgive my outsider ignorance, but isn’t the entire point of medical insurance to cover situations like that?
Seems to me like the entire point of insurance companies is to collect your money monthly in case some future event happens, then try their hardest to not actually hold up their end of the bargain if you actually need it, then raise the prices afterwards if you do get a successful claim. So you pay for them to act like they're doing you a huge fkn favour at their personal expense and not like it's their fkn job that you've been giving them money monthly for.
that's why insurance is a scam. You pay them unfathomable amounts of money for YEARS, then you want to use it, and you have to pay more, only for them to try their fucking hardest to deny you. Usually if they do accept you, it's already too late and you're terminal. Insurance is a fucking scam.
All insurance is gambling. They are betting that you'll pay thousands in home insurance or car insurance, and never make a claim, like most people. It's a good bet for the insurance companies.
But Health Insurance is different. Unlike your house burning down or your car getting wrecked, which seldom if ever happens, EVERYBODY gets sick, and eventually dies. It's ALWAYS a losing bet for the healthcare insurance companies. They have no choice but to rig the game so they can win.
That's why we need to forget about Health Care INSURANCE, and think in terms of Health Care MANAGEMENT. That needs to be in the hands of an entity that isn't motivated by profit, and that's the government. EVERY other country in the world understands this, but America is a Ferengi nation, and we literally worship profits. And mean LITERALLY - Prosperity Doctrine is the most powerful religious philosophy in America at the moment.
Insurance should be like social security: handled by the state, with the possibility of having a complementary private insurance if you want.
You think insurance exists to serve customers? Lmao no, they exist to make their shareholders wealthy beyond imagination.
The entire point of insurance is to take your money and there is no step 2.
murdering CEO's is self defense
More accurately, Defense of Others, which is as valid as Self-Defense.
"we need Robin hood"
"For what?"
"Financial stuff, you wouldn't understand but you should buy it"
Robin Hood shows up.
"Oh fuck. Do you think he knows we were lying? He wasn't supposed to actually show up. Do you think he'll shoot us?"
"He's kind of famous for it. Like legendary famous. You probably should have referenced King Midas if you were going to misinterpret a myth"
They approved a friends expensive drug therapy around that same time. It didn't save his life but it definitely prolongs and improved it. The thing is these Cluster B nightmares that make statements like that can only see it if its them who needs the saving. Otherwise they are cold blooded death mongers.
That's a life for a life. Why shouldn't we do more? I guess at some point they will retaliate, but still...
I actually think it's time for the people to retaliate.
Every one of us knows someone against whom the insurance companies have pre-retaliated.
luigi hasn't been found guilty so anything that refers to a shooting is supposition at best
