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Well, they sure proved the "you can't trust the government when it comes to vaccines" message they were trying to put out during the pandemic.
I guess that's kind of always been the Republican playbook: Complain about something in the government. If it's not true, wait until you're in power and make it true.
Good thing they've gotten rid of that "nanny state" they hate so much. 😒
Yeah, but people getting vaccines was bothering the cons. Same with people wearing masks. The cons shaping the world in such a way so that things they chose to politicize and obsess over no longer are bothersome to them is not being the "nanny state", in their ridiculous redefinition of that term.
Point is, their big rallying cry was that people should be able make their own decision about whether to get the vaccine (or wear a mask), and now that they're in charge they're controlling what people can do, the very thing they complained about using terms like "nanny state". Some repub-controlled places are banning mask-wearing as well so expect that to go national soon.
Is this the freedom they keep talking about?
As a Canadian, I can say as a person with a reasonable government that isn't trying to control every minutia of my life, the additional threat of a predictable and preventable pandemic five years after all the lessons should have been learned to prevent the next one, vacationing in the USA is even LESS appealing than it already is.
While I think this is kinda dumb, there are SO many exceptions it includes almost everyone. I understand they want to generate more data to determine the effectiveness of these vaccines, but this exception list is just pointless. Either open it up to everyone like it was or make the exception list more restrictive if you want to do actual science.
Here is the exception list. Some of these should truly be exceptions, but inactivity? Depression? Granted I’m no doctor but this seems asinine.
Key Underlying Health Conditions Include: • Chronic Diseases:
• Diabetes (type 1 and type 2)
• Obesity (BMI >30 kg/m² or >95th percentile in children)
• Chronic kidney disease (including those on dialysis)
• Chronic liver diseases (such as cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, alcoholic liver disease, autoimmune hepatitis)
• Chronic lung diseases (asthma, COPD, bronchiectasis, interstitial lung disease, pulmonary embolism, pulmonary hypertension, cystic fibrosis)
• Heart conditions (heart failure, coronary artery disease, cardiomyopathies, etc.)
• Cancer (including hematologic malignancies)
• Cerebrovascular disease (such as stroke)
• Immunocompromised States:
• HIV infection
• Primary immunodeficiencies
• Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications
• Solid organ or blood stem cell transplantation
• Neurologic and Developmental Conditions:
• Dementia, Parkinson’s disease
• Disabilities (including Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, neurodevelopmental disorders, mobility disabilities, and others)
• Mental Health Conditions:
• Mood disorders (including depression)
• Schizophrenia spectrum disorders
• Other Conditions:
• Pregnancy and recent pregnancy
• Smoking (current or former)
• Physical inactivity
• Tuberculosis
And the provider giving the shots will probably make you bring paperwork stating you have whatever condition (to cover their ass), which narrows it down to those with the time and money to get it -- and I doubt insurance will be required to cover it any more, so that's another $200-300.
But that's not even the point, since if the goal is less spreading and mutations, which means the more who get the vax the better, and that means including young and healthy. [narrator: that, of course, is not the goal]
Physical inactivity? What paperwork do you bring for that?
A doctor's order for the vax or being >= age 65. I'm saying they'll probably require it. We'll find out.
Until they actually publish the policy, who knows, right? Just because that was the "high risk" list last time doesn't mean that the new FDA won't declare that the only risk factor is having a golf handicap above 3...
I wonder how old the people in power are.
This is why fascism always eventually fails. Reality doesn't give a shit about your spin and scapegoating, and will happily bring a pandemic roaring back when you do something stupid for the sake of the narrative.
The only question is how many people get hurt while it fails.
Hurting people is the POINT. People in his base WANT to see people hurt.
Until they get hurt. I know a former Trumper, who left after the Florida age verification law.
Wait, what age verification law?
JFC. And I remember telling people after donvict "won" and before he slithered back into the office that they might want to be sure they were up on their shots, esp. Covid, and some of them told me I was being hysterical - even though I told them this in a calm and reasonable tone.
and will require manufacturers to conduct clinical trials to show whether the vaccines are of benefit to healthy younger adults and children.
So...
Any/All data regarding COVID vaccines/vaccinations acquired from 2020-2025(1/2) doesn't count for anything, huh??
Proven safe and effective in the wild is meaningless then, huh???
🤦♀️ 🤡 🖕 🖕
Those billions of people are obviously in Big Pharma's pocket.
Thanks, now I’m actually hoping Pfizer’s lobbying team is able to sway government policy.
Killing Americans to make redneck cousin fuckers feel like their vote did what they wanted it to do.
Fuckin fuck.
Every fall I get my flu shot and covid boosters. Guess I'm just gonna have to play up my asthma as a high risk illness.
Be careful that they don't think you're saying "miasma" as that is apparently the basis for RFK's health dept policy
That will usually qualify, especially since Covid is primarily a respiratory illness.
Common sense says "yes", but I fear we've gone far past that lol.
Unfortunately, it appears that you are correct. They released a list of qualifying conditions and while COPD and brochiectasis are on the list, asthma is not.
Edit: I'm kinda braindead right now. Asthma is the first thing on the list. whoops.
Am I reading it wrong, or is Asthma not the first item on the list?
(I hope I'm not reading it wrong lol).
You're right. My brain is absolute pudding because I'm studying for my board exams. Doing a few hundred multiple choice questions about complex medical topics in a row doesn't leave a whole lot of processing power left for anything else.
I feel ya. My brain is also running on fumes, so wasn't 100% confident in my own reading lol.
Fuck you, guve me my shot
You'll probably have better chances of a successful shot at your local elementary school
droll AF
The fact that your comment doesn't seem outlandishly calloused tells you how bad the state of affairs is. I work in education in Texas and often feel like I'm just waiting for my turn to catch a bullet.
May the internet gods of Lemmy protect thee and thine schools, or else let this fucking country get its shit together. Either is good, really.
Thank you, kind stranger.
And to you, yours, and us all, I wish a speedy unfuckening
What the fuck? I had a family member nearly die from Covid. I got it 3 times despite being vaxxed and wound up with white blood cell counts that scared the doctor so much that she thought I had late stage cancer. The vaccine more than likely saved both our lives. Neither of us are over 65. Fuck this country.
When does this go into effect?
From the actual commentary ( https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2506929 ):
Over the past two seasons, uptake of the annual Covid-19 booster has been poor, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Less than 25% of Americans received boosters each year, ranging from less than 10% of children younger than 12 years of age in the 2024–2025 season to 50% of adults over 75 years old.4 Even health care workers remain hesitant, with less than one third participating in the 2023–2024 fall booster program.5 There may even be a ripple effect: public trust in vaccination in general has declined,6 resulting in a reluctance to vaccinate that is affecting even vital immunization programs such as that for measles–mumps–rubella (MMR) vaccination, which has been clearly established as safe and highly effective. In recent years, reduced MMR vaccination rates have been a growing concern and have contributed to serious illness and deaths from measles. Against this context, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) seeks to provide guidance and foster evidence generation.
Absolutely fucking bullshit spin, trying to redefine "poor" and scapegoat the vaccines themselves for the anti-vaxxers' disinformation.
Glad I live somewhat close to Canada so I can still get vaccines.
Until they revoke your passport, anyway
That's funny that's exactly the main demographic still getting COVID vaccines on the regular in the UK, you know, because they have weaker immune systems
Edit: I misread that they were limiting it for them and not to them. Which on reflection probably should have made me read again....
Everyone should be able to get one if they want
This excludes people who care for those folks, who used to be able to get the vaccine so they didn't expose them. Because the protection isn't 100%
Getting the COVID vaccine does make your chances of contracting it much lower, but not zero by any means. If you've been vaccinated and you still get it, the severity and length is lower. My father-in-law caught it a while back, was vaccinated, had to be hospitalized. If he hadn't been vaccinated, he may well have died.
My insurance company company said I could no longer get shots at the pharmacy (CVS). I talked to my doctor about it and he told me to go to a different pharmacy. My doctor is usually great but this did not help.
So I didn't get any shots last fall. Fuck insurance companies.
Just a death cult doing death cult things.
Shot tourism at its best....Canada give us a shot!