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[–] JulieLemming@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Thank on your knees to fate that you weren’t born in Egypt

There’s no worse cesspit on earth that isn’t a warzone

Even India is more civilised and even nice folks in comparison

Friend of my friend once said that staying there she will either kill herself, get r**** or join hamas and she eventually joined hamas so yeah

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

My friend is from Egypt and he says the same but I have no idea what exactly is there that is so bad. Can I elaborate.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 4 hours ago

I've been to Egypt several times, and sometimes I've stayed with people who have moved there.

The impression I get is that there very few ways for people born there to raise themselves up above what I call "The Hustle". There's a state of being where the key to survival is extracting money out of everyone you meet. By fair means or foul, you must make money.

It can be making sure every person that walks into your shop buys something. It can be being a kerb crawling tuk tuk driver pestering walkers by. It can be thieving. It can be taking bribes in local government. Everybody is on the hustle. You can't afford to trust people because they'll take any advantage they can. It's a permanent state of stress and fear.

...and then there are the immigrant whales that move there, buy a big house on the coast and exploit the locals by flashing the cash.

All of that said, when people do manage to find something stable, they're a great people, but there are so few decent ways to make enough money.

[–] JulieLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Mentality is just merciless and cruel. Years of generational human abuse. Abused become abusers. Corruption, nepotism, patriarchy. On Egypt Facebook your feed is full of videos of animal abuse and laughing smileys in comments. It’s a dark place

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Using 'civilized' in this context evokes a bit too much Western colonial brain rot for my tastes.

India and Egypt are two very different countries geographically, culturally and politically.

India has its own problems with Hindu fascism.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

If enough locals had their way, we would return to an independent republic

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 15 hours ago

It's good to put your own problems into perspective sometimes.

[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Am I allowed to complain since I live in the USA ?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Do what I do. Grit your teeth and avoid the headlines. Check in daily but don't get sucked in. Check the uplifting news to feel better.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

No. You and your fellow citizens voted for this.

[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

I voted Harris so no I didnt vote for this.

[–] gleb@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

no, not all of us did. it just so happens that morons yell the loudest

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Either people voted against him, for him, or abstained from voting (implicitly agreeing with whatever decision the majority made).

The last two groups there, vastly outweighed the first one in this election.

You're right, not everyone wanted this.... But that's how democracy is. You vote and, at least in theory, the person that the most people vote for (believe in/agree with), is then made president.

By definition, democracy will always have people who didn't vote for the current government.

All I'm saying is that either by action (voting for Trump) or inaction (not voting), a majority decided that he should become president.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You dug your bed, now lie in it ?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

More or Less.

Personally I blame the absentee voters. People who could have voted, but didn't, and by not voting, indirectly supported Trump in winning the election.

Unless there's a serious shake up of how things work in the USA, there's shit all that can be done about it now, since getting him out of office requires that the people near the top (senators/Congress/whatever) need to take action in indict him and start the process of ejecting him from office, but then they'll be left with the current VP, and I'm not sure that's better.

Either way, nobody at the top is taking action against Trump, so the whole thing is moot. They have grounds, but they are not willing to do it.

GG. RIP the USA.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming you meant "voted":

No, I and many others didn't, actually, maybe learn how our voting system works before throwing gover half the country into a bus with less than half the country

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

I think you mean "over". (Thanks, I make many typos, just returning the favor)

And.... Didn't Trump get the popular vote this time around? So more there were more voters for Trump than anyone else?

Idk. I don't live there but I know your voting system well enough.... Since everyone wants to talk about it, apparently.

The fact that he won, even by a small amount, which... In this case, he won by more than a small amount, is the point. You and your fellow Americans knew what you were signing up for, and you knew what he was saying he will do this time around. None of this was a surprise. He's been talking deportation and tariffs for over a year. Now that they're here, suddenly a lot of people are regretting their decisions.... Again, this was not a surprise. They voted for this and yet take issue when this exact thing happens.

There may be many people who didn't vote that could have, who would have voted against Trump, but the fact is, by not voting, you are implicitly agreeing with whatever decision is made by your fellow citizens. Putting the decision in their hands. As someone once said "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

Either you voted for it, you were okay with letting others decide and you're complicit, or, you were part of the minority of people who voted against Trump. One of these three things is true for each and every American.

I'm sorry, but this is what the majority of the people in your country wanted.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 44 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I’ve never understood the argument that you shouldn’t complain about the environment you interact with because other people interact with worse environments.

Like, okay, that’s good to keep in mind with respect to privilege and assumptions and such, but like…

I can’t deliver a first-hand account of someone else’s life, and I can’t identify the possible solutions to their problems as well as I can for my own — let alone access their world as well as my own, to try to fix some of the problems.

I think on some level the people who say “focus on those other people’s problems” know that those other problems are less accessible.

It’s not that they want you to do better activism. It’s that they want you to do none.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

It's basically whataboutism

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

I’ve never understood the argument that you shouldn’t complain about the environment you interact with because other people interact with worse environments.

I call this the "children of Africa" -argument. Basically, it's an argument that you can never complain about anything or do anything to better something, because "some kids are starving in Africa"; someone always has it worse. It's purpose is to belittle and brush aside either the problem worded out or the person saying it (or both).

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

i think the joke here is that a lot of people who come across this do live in America and it implies we all pity them

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Actually fr! Studied a year there and I had no driver license back then… Which was fuckin painful as there was little to no other infrastructure! It was also fun to start uni with a 2 hour consultation about school shootings…

But the worst thing? They fucken start every conversation with a ‘how are you’ and look at you like you are boinkers if you say anything aside from ‘good’! Well I am not fuckin good at most times…

Lived in multiple eu countries as a contrast and its incomparably worse, while there is an amount of money I would go back temporarily but I would never settle down there

[–] DeviantOvary@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

I have a coworker who greets me with "Hi, what's up? How's it going?" and then just continue walking without expecting an answer. It's such a pet peeve of mine, lol. We're not Americans, we live in Europe, and this person is definitely an exception, but it still catches me off guard every single time.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

You see, "how are you?" Isn't a genuine quotation, it's just a way of saying "hello" and feigning interest in someone's well-being. In all actual fact, nobody gives a shit.

Just say "fine" and move on.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

I say “doing alright, how about you”l and that usually covers it

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

This is so strange of you start to think about it: A whole country decided to ask about your feelings, which is a super deep question. But it doesn't accept anything other than "fine". Like, you are not greeting someone by wishing them well, or peace or welcoming them, but by demanding a fixed fake answer that everything is offs. It makes the one who greets look like they care. But they usually do not. So every conversation has to start with a lie by the person who was greeted first.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

There's a lot more thats superficial about America if you keep looking.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Wait, so y'all don't have to lie and tell people you're doing good? This is an American thing?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah...

I am an American but have had a lot of friends from all over the world.

We are kind of exceptional in the extent of normalized, utterly disingenuous 'standard social interactions and phrases' that we use.

We talk like NPCs using throwaway, canned dialogue lines, and if we don't do NPC talk, well then that is actually viewed as antisocial...

Even though basically everyone else in the world would view this all as the opposite, inverted. Such forced bullshit conversations are generally viewed as bullshit and disingenuous.

Land of the individual!...

So long as you conform to various social norms that are so routine most of us don't ever even stop to question their prevalence or function.

[–] mrbubblesort@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hear ya, but I gotta say, America ain't nothing compared to Japan in that regards. They have actual standardized stock phrases for all types of interactions, at work and at home. I have been in meetings where some participants literally didn't utter a single word that resembled an original thought, and it was completely acceptable.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That is very true, Japanese corporate business culture is on a whole other level.

Somewhat ironically, all my experiences with actual Japanese people are via Karate... in the Dojo, very strict, formal, no nonsense.

But uh, just casually hanging out? At least the ones I knew,... much more rowdy, haha.

Unrelated to my earlier Karate experiences, about a decadr after I'd gotten my black belt, and had since laid off Karate a bit... I once randomly befriended a Japanese man... who claimed he had been an actual Yakuza, a Yakushi... he explained to me that he had fucked up some operation, and instead of losing a finger, his superior struck him with the blunt side of the... I guess it would have been a waki-zashi?... stuck him on the knuckle, and that finger of his was pretty messed up.

He took that, and permanent exile from Japan, over... losing a finger, and then likely just getting killed... he'd pissed off another group pretty severely.

... We then got to talking about Anime, Yokai, and of course Karate... said he was a 4th Dan, 4th Degree Black Belt and uh... yeah, he was very, very significantly skilled in a few basically play fight, not even proper sparring bs we got into a few times.

Initially, he said he wanted me to prove I wasn't bullshitting about my black belt. Gave him my Style and as much family lineage of it that I remembered... and he then, almost totally without warning, threw a punch right at my face.

I did nothing. Didn't move at all.

His fist stopped about a half centimeter from my nose.

He laughed, said 'You blinked', I laughed, and he believed me after that.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Hell that's regional even in the US. Most social interactions in the PNW used "What's up!" in whatever variation to mean "Hi!" and "How's it going/are you doing?" meant "Tell new how you're feeling or how your day/task is progressing“. Honest answers were quite normal. The only people who were bothered were the bourgie types, and fuck 'em in any case.

We also just didn't talk to unfamiliar people outside of social spaces if it could be helped.

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[–] wall_panel_96@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

sigh. why have a reddit alternative if its just the same as reddit.

[–] beveradb@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

It's not the same, you don't get banned for mentioning Luigi or criticizing Musk here

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 4 points 6 hours ago

I mean, you joined and commented on world.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

We are so fucked.

[–] SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago

If you think the USA's domestic policy is terrible and social murder, wait till you find out about its foreign policies. They do social murder too, but regular murder, mass murder, and terrorism sponsored by the richest nation are also on the table.

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