Setting aside the veritable TITAN-loads of shady shit Palsntir is up to, it's also worth noting that Reddit's policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model, so I'd assume that not only is Palantir using it for that purpose, but that they are far from alone.
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What shady stuff are you talking about may I ask?
Just waiting for Thiel to buy Reddit.
half of its already bots, so im not surprised and it usually the propaganda bots keeping up the engagements. Also i heard reddit wants to make thier post/account history mroe private so its harder to discern a bot.
Reddit’s policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model
I left reddit years ago, what are these policy changes that you're talking about and how do they relate to spreading "disinformation"?
My take: removing API access and banning mods who protested saying that this would centralize tooling (removing 3p access), plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as "violent" are clear indicators that they are disinformation sympathetic, despite the primarily "left wing" seeming content that remains. Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation, as can be seen in minutes of browsing.
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Oh no, sounds like I should avoid this reddit you speak of. Any suggestions for alternatives?
Versions of them are here already. Their focus right now is to:
- start violence at protests, especially around LA and target cities like NY, Seattle, Chicago, etc.
- seed doubt in anything related to the republican agendas or what they have done. Usually starts with, "I hate trump like the rest of us, but...." or something like that.
- downvote the shit out of people that call anything like the above out. They'll come in later, one by one, to do this.
They usually congregate over the weekend and during or right after major events (like the protest). Watch for them this weekend or stay away from Lemmy. If you watch for it, downvote them and upvote the people fighting them, but most of all, take what everyone says with a grain of salt.
this is usually when I would say something conceited like "lol glad I don't live in the US" but then I realise that I'm just as fucked as the rest of the world and we don't have a future
hopefully microplastics will invade my colon/heart/kidneys/liver/brain soon and remove me from this living nightmare, I can't deal with this shit anymore
Yeah, unfortunately they'll target anyone they can. Brexit wasn't even a law, it was a general, "Hey, how do you feel about brexiting?" Then they went full hog into, "You voted for it!" They do it with Ukraine/Russia, or anything they feel like targeting.
World disorder that benefits the billionaires seems to be the goal. I'll never understand why they want to live in a world like that. Raising all boats makes a much more fun world. Who will they hire if we're in a dystopian landscape, when everyone wants to get you because they have nothing to lose?
Take care of your mental health man. Find peace in the little things in life.
Raising all boats makes a much more fun world.
Billionaires are pathologically selfish, often it seems with actual personality disorders that make them unable to understand a world of mutual support and sharing, or to appreciate how much they benefit from others' support. Unfortunately we let these people become far too powerful.
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Palantir is pretty awful. I knew a guy who took a job there, a bunch of years ago. When he said where he was going, I asked "But what if they work on something really shitty? Like spying on people?". He was like, "Meh", with a big shrug.
He was friendly and kind to the people around him, but I guess he just didn't care about anyone he didn't know personally right now.
If I'm reading this right, you would basically say that any company that helps government institutions spy on people is awful, is that right?
I haven't thought through all the scenarios and edge cases, but generally spying on the public seems dicey and ripe for abuse. Especially if it's just like "the public, all the time, whenever we feel like it," instead of "ok we got a warrant signed by a judge to investigate Joe Bombguy".
To me, spying and spying on the public en masse are very different things
I've heard that's how a lot of wealthy people feel. They want the absolute best for people in their family, and that's about it.
Yup. I've worked in tech for nearly 20 years. Most people who work in tech don't give a shit about the ethics of what they do or where they work if the money is good.
This is a screenshot from one of the discords of current and/or previous coworkers, but the sentiment is everywhere
Ex pal people are on slack, not discord. This is probably an investor server
Lol are you telling me that the people that I've worked with directly in small 5-10 person discord servers that we set up when I worked with them, are in fact investor imposters, and instead the actual coworkers are secretly using separate slack setups? Or do you just imagine that anecdotally how ever your coworkers have communicated is how all people communicate without exception?
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I think it can be difficult to relate to such abstract concepts and consequences that you don't feel directly. After all, it'd be much easier to press on a button that'd kill 10 000 people living 10 000 km away from you than to stab one person to death. Out of sight out of mind.
My point being that I don't think he's indifferent to people that he doesn't know, he's simply not able to process all the ramifications of this particular thing. The effects of data collection and manipulation is quite subtle, after all, like the frog in the slow burning pot
You just described that he is in fact indifferent.
It is not like we don't have easy to access knowledge about authoritarianism and how it plays out. It is not like we lack information about the criminal and murderous stuff Palantir is involved. FFS the company is owned by a guy who lets himself be "refreshened" with the blood of younger people.
Anyone who does a minimal level of due diligence in looking up his employer knows what kind of company it is. And it is an intelligence company, so the type of people working there must bring a higher level of research and diligence skills.
They know exactly what they are doing and they are fine with it.
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Palantir ~~may~~ be engaging in a coordinated disinformation campaign
Is, has been, is designed to, whole purpose is, etc... definitely not "may"...
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Source? I've never heard about pal being used for disinformation
You should assume every online space has disinformation, bad actors, trolls, sea lions, and other types of undergrowth. That is why critical thinking is so important.
Including Lemmy. Especially Lemmy, since it's so easy to create accounts on different instances, or even host your own.
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Palantir just partnered with TeleTracking. For anyone outside of health care, TeleTracking is a health tech company that's been on decline for awhile.
Why is this relevant, you may ask? TeleTracking still has a lot of clients, many of which are smaller hospitals grandfathered into older, cheaper contracts. If you go to a hospital that uses TeleTracking, Palantir now has all your patient health information.
Is there any evidence that Palantir the company aggregates data across contractual boundaries? Everything I've seen indicates the reverse: it's a glorified hosted data storage solution with workflows built on top
To add to this.
Retirement homes utilize community activity software. Sometimes this will link to health systems like point click care.
When this software company starts wanting you to upload resident profiles so their ai can populate interests? Yeaaaaah they found a work around for your PPI is what that is.
If it wasn't a rush for data already it reallllly is now.
Scary.
Alex Karp, founder, CEO, and majority shareholder of Palantir, is an ultra-zionist genocide supporter who has repeatedly advocated for pre-emptive murder of anyone (foreign) who does not obey the US empire. He does this in ordinary business news interviews.
As one of the leading companies seeking funding for Skynet, and universal CIA media unanimity on the importance that the US be dominant/first in race to develop Skynet. AGI/Skynet can be programmed to serve any supremacist ideology other than machines, and US empire and CIA aligned oligarchy supremacism is as much your enemy as robot supremacism.
AI, like mainstream media, and reddit/lemmy news, politics, world subs are CIA/empire allegiant. Brainwashing your warmongering support is their agenda. Skynet is far more power maximizing than UBI utopia.
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Guy. Reddit is already compromised.
The wholesale takeover of the site by /r/The_Donald posters gaming the algorithm back in 2016 is entirely down the memory hole.
Nobody who still uses the site wants to believe they're being hoodwinked again.
I mean if you read any Reddit that during the road to the recent USA elections, Biden should have won by an extremely large margin, and later , Kamala.
If we used Reddit threads of those months as reference, we'd currently been talking about how hard Kamala won
But she didn't
So yeah, take whatever is on Reddit, and now Lemmy, with an asteroid sized pinch of salt
Not saying those comments were fake, they certainly represent someone, now, wheater that someone is a sizeable amount of voters...
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Reddit was already compromised. For those that were there, there was incident that showed that most of the top posts made are made by a handful accounts on several subbreddits. Keep an eye for things like this, in fact you should be suspicious of .world and their actions.
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It's good that people are exposing manipulation and the corporations behind it but it's quite useless to do it on a heavily censored and already manipulated platform like reddit. I would also like to remember everyone that a bunch of people paid to work 8h a day could rig lemmy in a day, if you don't stop upvoting memes and stupid subs evil corporations like palantir are going to feast on lemmy.
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Palantir is the absolute scum of the information world. Tech with promise, but used in the worst kind of ways.
What kind of ways, can you explain?
3 light reading articles. Enjoy.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/nsa-palantir-israel-gaza-ai/
Yeah, its like they named themselves intentionally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palant%C3%ADr
The software data-collection company Palantir Technologies was named by its founder, Peter Thiel, after Tolkien's seeing stones.
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Coordinated astroturfing on reddit isnt even a new thing. I had the chance to watch how the whole marketing efforts for the Burnout Paradise remaster unfolded from the very first minute . That was back in 2018. It was so blatant how all the posts popped up on the same minute on several different subreddit and then slowly filled with obvious shill comments which got unnatural ammounts of upvotes. I mean there was also some natural engagement. Its still a beloved franchise. But that made it even easier to pick out the tonedeaf marketeer comments since the remaster wasnt that great and it already showed in the prerelease footage. Astroturfing was probably a thing from the very beginning of reddit. But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.
But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.
You must have been too young in 2015. Redditors watched in amazement as "the switch" flipped from Bernie to Hillary in literal hours.
The DNC later admitted to spending millions of dollars on actual shills, employed by ActBlue, to "Correct the Record" on Hillary.
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You mean the company started by musks fucktoy is doing some fucked up things? I don’t believe you.
Yes. Reddit allows payola posts. Of course they are.
Whelp. It appears I am a robot. I guess I don't get to find out what my fellow boys are up to. smh.
(Edit).. apparently I can't even spell "bots" correctly. I'm failing all the tests today.
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