Oh the irony.
While Israel's Defence Minister Israel Katz told reporters: "Khamenei openly declares that he wants Israel destroyed - he personally gives the order to fire on hospitals."
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2025
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The irony is so rich indeed.
May they get what they deserve.
Israel calls the attack "criminal" but had no problem levelling hospitals in Gaza...
Now that they are fighting people who can actually retaliate, maybe more people will realize they don't want to die for something that means nothing to them. The brainwashing is bad, though, so probably not for a while, if ever.
This is my hope.
Vietnam taught the US that war actually means something when your country's actions force you to become involved when you didn't want to be.
I don't think we learned anything from Vietnam. Though I do hope this will make Israelies realize they aren't gaining anything for the common person, just more hate, loss, and economic struggle eventually.
Lessons we were supposed to learn from Vietnam.
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The government will lie to its citizens and use propoganda to push an agenda to help their careers over valuing our populous' lives, money, or feelings.
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The media will allow misinformation to flow so long as they can make personal/company prosperity off of it
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Support systems are lacking for the troops as well as benefits.
In the last week we have seen calls to cut aid to troops, citizens, and the media overflow with misinformation to push forward agendas that are not in the best interest of the common citizen.
Some of that's true, yes.
But you're missing the bigger point here: the antiwar movement in the US flourished because people who didn't want to fight were forced to fight, and the American government saw that the military draft was self-defeating and, while it still exists statutorily, it is effectively nonexistent because they don't want another anti-war movement interrupting the gravy train.
The number of active duty troops needed by the U.S. to enter battle gas fallen drastically. We aren't actually trying to occupy anything. For instance we sent 130,000 into Iraq in 2003, and the needed numbers have fallen more since as warfare advances. The U.S. has over 2,000,000 troops and 700,000 reserves. The draft was retired because we don't need it. We just view it as the draft being gone because that's what the government wanted us to see/believe. Yet every male in the U.S. is required by law to sign up. Propoganda works wonders on us all. Will we see a ban occur, someday I'm sure, but it won't be before we know volunteers far outweigh what's needed for the greed of the rich.
Thank you for your commentary.
Sorry, sitting in meeting bored. Didn't know what to do with the time
No worries. :)
You have to be special kind of a scumbag to intentionally bomb hospitals full of innocent people.
Iran is also bad.
This is the only sane take. Bombing hospitals is a war crime for a goddamn reason.
There is simply no excuse for this, both sides should be held liable for their war crimes.
it will be considered a war crime
but it'll boil my blood when she the countries who defended and sponsored the Gaza genocide will come out to declare Iran bombing a hospital a war crime and will cooperate with the ICC (or appropriate body) to prosecute Iran.
because bombing all the hospitals in a country is fine, but one is Israel does it
Yeah, I agree. Not sure why the west is so eager to shield Israel from their responsibilities, but Netanyahu and co should stand trial for their crimes against humanity. But so should Khamenei.
If we want to hold Iran to account for this one war crime and Israel to account for its thousands of war crimes, that sounds like Justice, yes. Lets do Israel first.
Agreed. I don't care who gets tried in The Hague first though, so long as both get their lawful comeuppance.
agreed, love it. Lets just start using laws again, and suffer real consequences for breaking them.
Whoever justifies this - shame on you. I feel sorry for every innocent soul going through this - Israeli, Palestinian or Iranian. We are all brothers and sisters. Eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.
Not justifying. Just running out of empathy after all the Gaza shit. Sorry.
Well, Israel and its allies provided a lot of statements that justify attacks on hospitals.
As the BBC reported, there is military and intelligence sites nearby, which is consistent with Irans claim of having targeted legitimate military targets. I guess the Israelis should be condemned here for using their hospitals as human shields, like they have accused their targets of, usually falsely.
I hope that as little Civilians as possible get hurt, however the attacking nation crying wolf about collateral damage, after butchering Civilians in the tens of thousands during the past years and well before that too, cannot help but raise an eyebrow. This comes especially as many people in the Israel civilian population have cheered on massacre against Civilians.
Had a quick look at their statements. The IRGC claimed to target "IDF C4I, along with a military intelligence facility located in the Gav-Yam Technology Park".
The edge of the technology center area is 1.2km from the location of the missile strike, which seems to have been the main hospital building of the medical center. Whilst I don't know where in the tech center area the "intended" target is, this puts the hospital area as a whole at a distance of 900m-1.5km. This is within the CEP (circular error probable) for some of Iran's ballistic missiles, but at least from a cursory search they appear to have armaments with enough accuracy to not risk hitting the hospital when aiming at their supposed target and sufficient range to hit Israel.
Israel is currently genociding an entire nation of people. There ain't no "eye for an eye"
How accurate are Iranian missiles compared to Israeli jets? Is this an issue of limited accuracy or intentional targeting?
I'm presently willing to give more benefit of the doubt to Iran regarding missiles fired from hundreds (thousands?) of miles away than I am to Israel who has a very strong track record of intentionally targeting civilians in undeniable ways (e.g. snipers shooting children). Past behavior is a fair reason to be biased.
Only a monster wants to see civilian deaths. Realistically, I don't consider military deaths as "good" either; in modern combat it's more about military structures and equipment.
Oof
I feel bad for the half of Israelis who don't support the genocide and war.
The rest deserve to reap what they sow
I hope how the impunity of Israel makes bombing hospitals a normal occurrence in war. I have a feeling bombing hospitals will become the norm in wars.