People will start posting what browser they are using and it will be a trick post to fingerprint Lemmy users.
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2025
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I could make some minor technical quibbling noises about a few of these, but uh yeah, seems like a quite reasonable overall assesment.
EDIT:
Oh dear god I am blind, I didn't notice he had Brave on the very top rank.
No, no no no.
Brave is trash.
Beyond getting bloated and slower over time...
... doing a whole bunch of crypto based funding and ""anonymizing"" to tie into an advertisement system...
...Peter Fucking Thiel, of Palantir, you know the fucking hyperwealthy dark overlord of data harvesting data and then selling dystopian surveillance tech to governments?
Who openly calls for hypercapitalism, corporate neofeudalism, whatever you wanna call it, actual cyberpunk dystopian nightmare society?
Yeah he was a major founding investor.
You'd have to be an idiot to think Brave is actually private or secure.
https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-most-overrated-browser-dont-recommend/
And I was an idiot for missing it up there in the top row, christ i need glasses.
Brave is S-tier? Really?
That alone makes me want to dismiss the entire thing.
Yeah, I'd put it at B or C. In fact, my list is simple:
- Firefox and its derivatives
- Anything with a decent ad blocker (so Brave I guess?)
- Everything else
Brave shouldn't even be on this list with all the shit they tried to pull with crypto and whatnot.
Why? None of that has anything to do with the browser, since you can completely ignore the crypto nonsense and it still has a good ad blocker. If you need a chromium browser with ad blocking, it's quite good.
I use it as a backup to Firefox and it works well.
People have such a hate boner for crypto that anything even tangentially connected to it is dismissed as shit.
Yeah, I don't get it. I'm not a fan of Brave's business model, not because of crypto, but because they replace ads w/ their own. Either work a deal out w/ the owner to share revenue or just block ads, don't profit off someone else's content.
I don't agree but I don't disagree sanguinely. Solid normie ranking.
There are no “goats” browsers. Every browser sucks.
No Zen browser?
Theres ungoogled chrome??
Yes, called chromium, I've had to use chrome sometimes for work (fucking teams) so instead I use chromium.
chromium ≠ ungoogled chromium
The latter is my last-resort for those websites that will only work with chromium browsers, the rare times I absolutely need them. Works pretty well and it's easy enough (for now) to add ublock origin via drag and drop.
I use the flatpak version, faster to install.
Have you heard of our lord and savor, Waterfox?
Free thyself from the Mozilla Corporation
Lol, all FF derivatives still rely on Mozilla for maintaining the browser engine. One of the most complicated pieces of software to develop, and there's only 3 fully operational ones. Chrome, Safaris Webkit and FFs Gecko. MS gave up on their engine because it was so difficult to maintain.
Should Mozilla go full tilt enshittification and close the source or something, all the derivatives will wither and die.
Safari's WebKit isn't Apple's though. It was built around KHTML, from KDE.
True, but, KHTML hasn't been developed now for a decade.
Iirc, the Chrome engine is a fork of KHTML as well.
There's also open source Servo engine, which kinda works ok for specific use cases
And there's Ladybird browser, the first browser with a from-scratch browser engine, it started 5 or 6 years ago and isn't targeting its first alpha until 2027
Those are the 2 closest to being ready for "Average Joe Usage" and they are not even close to being ready for prime time.
Chrome uses a fork of WebKit (Safari), which is a fork of KHTML, IIRC.