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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a twin.

Do we share? Do we need to both sign off on this before our likeness can legally be used?

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

This was like the discussion I had with my twin over those dna services. We both agreed that it is not fair or right to force the other twin to have their dna used basically so neither of us would ever use the service.

Guess I gotta chat again over this though we look different. Ah birth trauma. I'm going to guess we'll just agree no one uses our likeness ever. Anywhere. Somehow!

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Unfortunately, the article doesn't really say why it's necessary with personality rights already in place, or how copyright would apply differently.

“In the bill we agree and are sending an unequivocal message that everybody has the right to their own body, their own voice and their own facial features, which is apparently not how the current law is protecting people against generative AI,” Danish culture minister [said].

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 6 points 17 hours ago

I watched this video report/interview earlier. She found out her voice was being used in British railways as the announcer without her knowledge or consent.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You would think this was already a thing, it seems incredibly obvious and intuitive

[–] LuckyJones@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

It is a thing. Personality Rights. They exist in Danish law already. Maybe this new proposal is something else, something more specific or closes some loophole.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess this would work, but why not make a specific law? Copyright is meant for creative acts. Humans are created, in an act, but, never mind.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The answer seems obvious. This is simply a gift to famous people, who will be able to demand licensing fees without having to do any additional work. Just neo-feudalism.

The pitch makes as much sense as trying to sell ordinary copyright as a way to stop people forging documents.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So is there a fair use exemption for satire?

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It also would still allow parodies and satire, so some of the standard doctrine of fair use would still apply.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Thanks.

It's an interesting approach, and avoids a lot of the funny philosophical questions that comes out of banning just a certain technology.

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You definitely don't read every article that crosses your feed either.

I just wanted to know this one thing.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago

Nor should you, no one does. And you're not alone with this question, seeing the upvotes. So it presumably helped others.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doppelgänger’s are derivative works.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

there can be only one

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Denmark is literally the best country

*disclaimer; the specifics of your socioeconomic circumstance may differ wildly from my super privileged nordic “ive only ever lived in 3 of what is considered the top 5 countries of the world” background; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKEjpTzB0Q&pp=ygUYd2VsY29tZSB0byB0aGUgZ29vZCBsaWZl

[–] LazyWatermelon3623@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I like Denmark but they're the sole reason Russia gets to circumvent the sanctions since 2022. Don't forget that.

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That view doesn’t hold up against the facts. Denmark is legally blocked from acting alone but is actively working to dismantle the very system it's accused of ignoring.

Under international law, the Danish Straits are a global highway. Denmark cannot legally stop ships in "transit passage" without a clear safety or environmental threat. This isn't a Danish policy; it's a binding maritime rule that Russia's "shadow fleet" exploits.

Far from being a passive observer, Denmark is taking concrete action. Just this month, Denmark helped lead a coalition of 14 nations to coordinate new measures against the shadow fleet in the Baltic and North Seas. At home, it has cracked down hard, introducing legislation to raise prison sentences for sanctions violations to as high as eight years—one of the toughest stances in the EU.

The problem isn't Danish inaction. It’s the sophisticated, global evasion network Russia has built, which no single nation can defeat on its own.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just wait until you find out how they treat refugees...

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Touché, but in my defense, all countries suck, and mostly just serve the 1%, so the bar wasn’t high to begin with

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Just wait until you find out how refugees treat the very people who pay to put food on their tables and a roof over their heads.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

aka "I have no empathy for other people" and "I only read right-wing media".

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Refugees are a group of people that's very heterogenous. They don't have one common way of treating Denmark. Except for the 'asking Denmark for asylum' of course.

Denmark does treat refugees a certain way, if by Denmark we mean their government, and not Danes in general. The government has certain policies which define their treatment. Basically they're trying to win the race to the bottom: 'treating them worse than other countries do', hoping refugees will go to other countries instead. It's a shortsighted tactic because now we here in the Netherlands as well as in other countries, are joining the race to the bottom. Which means collectively we are losing our humanity, while still largely getting equal amounts of refugees at our borders. Unless of course you're willing treat people so poorly, that even a warzone is more acceptable. But what in the world are we defending if we are willing to lose all human decency over it?

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, daddy "all refugees are ungrateful criminals" cool

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Oh, so you can generalize, but I can't? Sure, atro "we treat all refugees as shit" city.

[–] oxf@sh.itjust.works -2 points 18 hours ago

Maybe there's a correlation

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, if your likeness lands in a torrent, it will be legal for Meta/Facebook to use it :)