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[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 hours ago

My trip to the USA in 2016 was one of the most harrowing, dehumanising, and humiliating experiences of my life. And I'm talking specifically about the actual journey, i.e. after the already lengthy, painful process of acquiring a visa.

They treated me like a terrorist. I had to be escorted by 2 armed big dudes around the airport, and they flipped their shit when I reached for my phone to tell my brother it'd be a while before I can come out (just so he wouldn't worry.) They went through my bag and were handling everything SUPER gently, asking if it was "safe" for them to touch it.

They then confiscated my passport, walked off, and literally never returned it to me. I spent hours asking various members of airport staff what to do because I was screwed. Thankfully, eventually one of them found it in a drawer and gave it back to me.

I was a minor BTW. I have had no desire to repeat the experience since.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

do not come to the united states, you safety, dignity, and sense of self, is not protected by the trump administration

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

You can just use that $250 to get pegged by an escort and have a better experience.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So as a Canadian here is yet another reason to never visit the newest Oblast USA...

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Putin prefers to call it "Amerika Oblast".

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Getting handled like a piece of shit at customs, having to pay an outrageous amount of money for the privilege, and can be "taken care of" by the US GeStaPo. Being a foreign tourist in the US is now more like masochism instead of a relaxing holiday.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 hours ago

I believe Netanyahu has nominated Trump for the "Tourism person of the year" award

[–] susurrus0@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

Why yes, I'd love to pay an additional $250 fee to be shipped off to a gulag.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

As well as spend 5-50000 days in custody anywhere from seatac to the Everglades concentration camp to the el Salvador concentration camp. The US occupied Guantanimo Bay facility is also on the table, though camp X ray is unlikely to be available

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Department of tourism doing the lords woke. Braise jeasus.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't find anything about ESTA, it is not really a visa, but bit similar. Is that also going to be 250$ now? Previously that cost 21$

[–] Styxia@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

ESTA isn’t impacted yet by this as it currently only applies to non-immigrant visas. However the “Big Beautiful Bill Act” sets inflation tracked annual increases starting 2026, and the base price is set to raise to $40 sometime this year (I’m not totally sure on when).

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 7 hours ago

Rebuilding the economy by :: checks my notes:: discouraging tourism. I think that officially fills my "how trump is going to fuck us" bingo card.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago

Even if they would pay me $250, I wouldn't want to go there.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 52 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Boy am I looking forward to the World Cup next year. If things keep trending this way it will be one of the most enjoyable cluster fucks I'll have ever witnessed.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Nice track record at FIFA

Russia 2018

Qatar 2022

USA 2026

Morocco 2030

KSA 2034

2038?

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago
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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Here’s a reminder that the Olympics was held in Nazi-controlled Berlin, and a team of 18 black athletes from the US thoroughly trounced Hitler’s “master race” talking points by sweeping the medals.

The black athletes then had to return to the US, where segregation was still the norm; many of them struggled to support themselves afterwards, because racism kept them from being hired into any decent jobs.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 22 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Anecdotally, they were treated better in Nazi Germany than 30's America.

Really tells it all.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 11 hours ago

The Nazis got their methods from American segregation laws

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Thanks to wwii and the experience of black soldiers, Paris became a hot-spot for jazz because so many us musicians would come play there to escape the racism at home.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

Anecdotally, they were treated better in Nazi Germany than 30’s America.

Because they were US citizens. While the US has some pretty... ugly history. If you think Nazi Germany would have treated a random black citizen better than what they got in the US you are absolutely delusional. The only reason they weren't sent to camps with the Jews was because the population was deemed too insignificant to be worth the effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_black_people_in_Nazi_Germany

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[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The headline is misleading.

  1. It's a refundable deposit
  2. It's not for all travelers but only for those on non-immigrant visas. Most notably, does not apply for ESTA travelers
[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 3 hours ago

Well the article clearly says there hasn’t been any implementation of this so it is unclear how you even pay let alone get a refund. It says it may be years before refunds could happen.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Do they say when it will be refunded though? Will it be refunded in cash or in TrumpBux? Isn't Trump going to add a 200 dollars tax on it, because reasons?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

The “visa integrity fee” applies to all visitors who need nonimmigrant visas, which includes tourists, business travelers and international students.

The fee is paid when the visa is issued, according to the provision.

Every international business meeting and conference just cancelled. Visits to Disney World plummet.

Who needs visas: https://brilliantmaps.com/visa-free-usa/

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's only to prevent poor people from South America, Africa, Eastern Europe/Asia. Europe/Japan/Australia is still free to go there.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Professor at a large Canadian university here- interest in our EFL study tours from Europe, Latin America, and East Asian countries has skyrocketed this year as MANY of our partner universities are cancelling (or placing on indefinite hiatus) their US programs.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Apparently it's a big thing in South America to go to Disney World. Family of 4 just added $1k. It'll make you think twice.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

It’ll make you think twice.

So will the lottery of a lucky few people being sent to their new home in El Salvador.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

South Sudan, and maybe rwanda

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[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I flew back from Brazil last year to Orlando, almost the entire plane was families with kids, a lot of which were wearing Disney merch. I bet that flight will soon be much less full as $250 is currently almost R$1,400 per person. R$5,500 additional for a family of 4 is a LOT of money in Brazil.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Disney tickets are fucking expensive too. It’s like $150 a day most months, so if they still come, they aren’t going as many days (if at all).

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So a good chunk of people that would be interested in the World Cup…. Yet another reason not to come for them. FIFA is practically going to have to give away tickets to get people to show up at this rate

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 day ago

Well well, my mortal enemy has reappeared. Jk, hope you have a great weekend.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago

I’m sure this will do wonders for the already declining US tourism industry.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

I don't call it the 'land of the fee and home of the easy payment plan' for nothing.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's gonna do wonders for tourism. Another 1000,- for a family of four.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

For every traveler who does pay the $250 fee, this is enough to scare away a dozen more who would've spent hundreds or thousands. Good job!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How many countries are going to add reciprocal fees? I hope all of them 😕

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk 22 points 22 hours ago

Why would we? If someone wants to visit from the US and spend their money here instead of at home, I'll let them.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

See - everyone who's new to the exciting play-by-play of a trump administration - this is how it goes. They do something like this - so boneheaded, so outrageous, so confoundingly incompetent you think, "That's the stupidest thing there ever could be" and then tomorrow - NOPE! New stupidest thing!

We did this already. It was four years of fucking insane hell. Many, many people died.

We're doing it again. I guess we're the stupidest motherfuckers to ever be.

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