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[–] ideonek@piefed.social 298 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 86 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is, because it's actually the term that defines the process of transferring files not from an external networked device - downloading - or to an external networked device - uploading - but between two local devices - sideloading.

It's over two decades old, you downloaded an mp3 from kazaa, and then sideloaded it to your player.

For android apps, I believe the term originates from the method of using ADB to directly write the app to the phone memory, the command of which is "adb sideload filename"

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 38 points 4 weeks ago (37 children)

And companies ofted do it. Thay recoined jaywalking to put the blaim of the accidents to pedestrians and take away the road from them. They change what littering means in attrmpt to delute the responsibility for polution... We are better than that this time, right?

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[–] G3NI5Y5@piefed.social 59 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Like "Jaywalking", suddenly, walking is no longer the norm, but the car is preferred. The victims are seen as perpetrators.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 233 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Call sideloading what it is, installing apps.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 210 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Since Google’s goal is to improve security

Is it though? Really?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 149 points 4 weeks ago

The security of their bank balance.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 34 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 26 points 4 weeks ago

This publication is always repeating Google's nonsense.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 141 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

tl;dr you can still "sideload" via adb.

This is so incredibly inconvenient as to be meaningless.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 58 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's not completely meaningless because if it's truly the only option I'm going to be using it until I eventually replace my current phone with one with an unlocked bootloader.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 33 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm afraid that won't help. There will be even fewer people developing apps specifically for the 0.01% of us using custom ROMs.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They're already developing the apps for the 1% of us not just using proprietary apps from the play store. I don't think this just kills open source app development.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's not who we're talking about. We're talking about the 0.1% who have custom ROMs.

It won't kill it completely but it will severely hurt it. The more complicated it becomes, the smaller the userbase becomes.

Apps like Syncthing have already discontinued development due to Google shenanigans + lack of users. That'll only get worse as the userbase shrinks.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

When my current phone dies I'll be buying a flip phone.

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[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It will be stupid, but I presume there will be a rise in desktop apps or webapps that require you to only plug the phone in and it will handle the rest.

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[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

good luck updating all your apps that way...

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 109 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure why google is over engineering this, proper mainline distros have this solved since forever. Let the community setup trusted repos with gpg keys, then let me trust the repos. If Fdroid trusts the package and I trust Fdroid, who should care?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 118 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Probably because they want to target software that cracks theirs to avoid ads, like ReVanced.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 50 points 4 weeks ago

Ding ding ding ding ding. It's so obvious, it's because Google wants to be in control and block apps it would rather not exist. Newpipe, FreeTube, Revanced and the like.

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[–] olsonexi@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago

Because it was never actually about security to begin with. That's obviously BS. Google just wants control.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 60 points 4 weeks ago (23 children)

If Google wanted to add developer verification without being evil, it could use SSL certificates connected to domain names. I think the whole concept is ill-conceived, though I'll admit to a modest bias against protecting people from themselves.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

This is actually worse than integration in Play Protect which can be disabled very easily. Now you can only install unsigned apps via ADB which means just developers can do it.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And very annoying too since some government apps don't like it when you have developer mode on.

[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not only government. I can't see my daughter's insulin pump status if I don't disable developer mode.

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[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Or anyone with a computer who installs ADB. You don't have to be a developer.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We hope that Google keeps its word and preserves ADB installation

lol, adb is the first loophole that will be closed.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (13 children)

why can google not just code something like this into android:

allow apps from:
( ) All sources (how it is now; allow each app to install apps from external sources)
( ) Just Google Play
( ) Apps which have been verified by Google Developer Program

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 4 weeks ago

Because they want to stop people from using ad blockers.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 40 points 4 weeks ago

Option 1 is a potential cause of "lost" revenue.

Late stage capitalism absolutely forbids anything that could cause that, even if the cost of implementation outweighs any potential gain.

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

We should embrace oldschool SciFy and go for (DIY) Cyberdecks.

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[–] covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Which means I can make an app for this "Sideloading" by shizuku..

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