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[–] dom@lemmy.ca 128 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Ok, but isnt it a bit fucked up that ice is using "gotta catch em all" when they are talking about "catching" actual people? Like jesus christ so dehumanizing.

God the US is so fucked.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago

its just facade finally falling and revealing the rot

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But if you call them fucking fascist pigs, you're the one inciting violence.

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If I was doing something wrong and could say "no u" to whoever complained, I would too

[–] CubitOom 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's very fucked up.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Beyond fucked. I hate living here so much. Gotta bend the knee for my Billionare overlords I guess.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In all fairness, a dying child is likely to have a harder time defending their use of Nintendo property. As a backup plan if court stuff isn't going their way, Nintendo can always stall for time until it's a moot point.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's also always a winning situation. You might lose the lawsuit, but he is still dead in a week. The kid is clearly losing no matter what.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago

Hey the dying child won't challenge them back. They are happy to punch down but why would they risk their god profit by punching up.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does legality equal morality?

Are corporations self running entities or is it people behind the corporations making decisions?

Should we as consumers hold the ppl running the corporations accountable?

Why do executives get to reap the benefits of shitting on consumers but not the consequences?

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imo:

  1. No
  2. It's people, but colloquially refering to a collection of board members making decisions by the company name they make decisions under is fine
  3. Yes
  4. They shouldn't, but they do for various reasons: it takes effort to find out who the specific people we should blame are, and what other companies they're associated with. It takes willpower for people to change their buying habits. It's easier (I'm guilty of this too) to moan and carry on than to make real change in our own lives.

What do you think?

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree. I want to promote discussion on the Nintendo community so ppl can start thinking and make it easier to change their buying habits. These companies don’t care about us they care about our wallets and they’ll fuck us over from here to the moon just to get an extra couple bucks out of us.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's a good goal, but unfortunately it'll be tough to convince people. You're fighting an uphill battle against people's nostalgia, and against the things they find comforting, just to get them to not live in denial and to act on something that deep down they definitely already. It's hard, the world is hard enough as it is and I'm sure you can understand why people who do already know that Nintendo is just a soulless corporation will bury their hands and buy the newest Mario anyway.

Good luck 🫡

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[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Just because its permissible doesn’t make it proper. Nor does the fact that it’s legal make it ethical.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not that I love Nintendo or Pokemon buy I think you're spreading shit here. Seems like ICE and DHS are just stealing everyone's content to make shitty memes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8ex9n8gxdwo

[–] CubitOom 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless Nintendo or the Pokemon Company actually says that the the Fascist Regime in the USA is not allowed to used their IP while making racist slop propaganda, then they are allowing it to be made by omission.

Nintendo is an infamously litigious company. If they do not take action against their IP use, it's a decision they made on purpose.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Palworld over here like

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Politicians infringe on IP laws all the time in campaigns, and there are constantly repercussions for doing so. Nintendo could strike back, if they wanted.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

cool. I'll just drop this here.

1000002050

I suppose we shouldn't make a bunch of these and share them across all platforms.

[–] CubitOom 3 points 1 week ago

This is amazing.

Im not entirely convinced this isn't a 4d chess maneuver. The guys a ultra right wing conspiracist shitbird, and unveils a hitlerstache? What if it's all been a bit to make ultra wing shitbirds look like shitbirds all along?

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Smosh is apparently more of a significant threat to Nintendo than the entire American government

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You mean the fact that ICE parodied Pokemon cards? I imagine it would fall under "fair use". Plus, a lawsuit is only useful if a court enforces it. A judge is not going to be awarding massive damages against a government agency over a joke

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Pretty sure it’s in response to them using the theme song. Idk if Nintendo even owns the rights to that song outside of using it as the theme for their show though. Still people aren’t super happy with Nintendo going “we didn’t say they could use it but we are not taking it down like we would if it was a fan project.”

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[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally, thank you. This is not the axe to grind with Nintendo. I don’t disagree with their stance here at all—am a lawyer. It’s absolutely fair use and would be a losing lawsuit.

Also, why the FUCK is ANYONE expecting a corporation to fight fascism? If you think that’s a corporation’s role in society, put down the phone and sprint to your local fucking library.

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Now the big question is: can this be used as case law against future attempts by Nintendo to stomp on fair use and other parody works?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's no case, so there's no case law.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

They could file a DMCA claim against use of the theme song. Corps have done it to videos before to get them taken down.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nintendo has issued strikes over a wide variety of youtube content for use of their music, from dedicated fan creators using Legend of Zelda or Super Smash Bros music over Lets Play style videos, reviews, etc, to an entire channel that hosted just Nintendo music (GilvaSunner). 2022 saw over 2200 strikes in just that year.

They are famously protective of their IP, including in situations of fair use..

Edit: Just to mention, the copyright act still applies to the federal government, as well as the state government. This has been in place since 1990. The joke of a supreme court we have now muddied the waters in 2020, but its more about state sovereign immunity in federal court, not about federal agency & copyright.

Yes, claims can be brought, damages can be required, and not any use can be considered fair use. Notably, damaging the brand by negatively impacting market value through the presentation excludes as fair use.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] CubitOom 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for posting the links.

"We are aware of a recent video posted by the Department of Homeland Security that includes imagery and language associated with our brand," The Pokémon Company International said in a statement shared with IGN. "Our company was not involved in the creation or distribution of this content, and permission was not granted for the use of our intellectual property."

Idk, this doesn't seem to me like they are saying they don't condone it. It's more like a kid in class is caught writing something on the wall and the teacher asks another student what happened and the other student says they saw him do it but but they didn't help or tell him to do it.

(Sorry for reposting the reply from the other community)

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[–] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm not fluent in legalese, but won't this make a precedent ?

[–] JakoJakoJako13@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

None of that shit matters anymore.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean? It sounds like you're talking about trademark stuff where if the trademark holder doesn't defend it they can lose protections associated with it. If so, that's about trademarks, not copyright. This is copyright infringement. Disturbing the content (copying) without permission (right).

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yes that's what I meant.

Thanks for clarifying the difference.

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[–] udon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hm, not sure if Nintendo is the right target here. Sure, they are popular with a certain crowd, but the argument is not super convincing. Why would a Japanese company that has a global business unnecessarily get involved in American politics? What would there be for them to win? New tariffs? Try to find an American company and shit on them, that might work better. Like Disney, Amazon, Meta, Apple, for example. Apple in particular might be a good target at the moment. Their new products are shit, people hate the direction everything is taking, but still have a deep attachment to the company (weirdest kink ever, if you ask me).

To me, Nintendo here just acts as a big corp doing big corp things. Make as much money as possible and wherever possible, don't mess with politics. They would be a better target if this were about Japanese politics, although unfortunately nobody cares about politics here and the fascist lot is also on the rise ("Japan first" lmao).

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

I think it's the hypocrisy of going after Palworld while being silent in the face of obvious evil.

[–] CubitOom 6 points 1 week ago

At a certain point, when a government is objectively and quantifiably evil, its no longer just politics. Have you seen the video in question? I got the song stuck in my head and all I can think of as i hear it is people being sent to literal concentration camps.

The Fascist Regime in the USA is being allowed to use their IP while making racist slop propaganda to make it seem cool or funny while tossing people into concentration camps. Where is the line? If the Israeli government used the same IP assets in a similar way to show off how they are committing genocide and murdering children trying to get food aid, would that then be a step too far?

This is damaging to Nintendo, and if they allow it to continue unchallenged they are complicit and deserve a boycott.

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