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Outside a train station near Tokyo, hundreds of people cheer as Sohei Kamiya, head of the surging nationalist party Sanseito, criticizes Japan’s rapidly growing foreign population.

As opponents, separated by uniformed police and bodyguards, accuse him of racism, Kamiya shouts back, saying he is only talking common sense.

Sanseito, while still a minor party, made big gains in July’s parliamentary election, and Kamiya's “Japanese First” platform of anti-globalism, anti-immigration and anti-liberalism is gaining broader traction ahead of a ruling party vote Saturday that will choose the likely next prime minister.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

All developed nations are going to realize they are in a population crisis in the coming decades. It's no surprise to see bigotry/xenophobia/conservatism hurting the future of a nation, but it's a bit surprising to see how popular it is across the globe.

I mean, I'm in the US and we are batshit stupid about it too. It's been the joke all my life about how Social Security won't be there when I retire one day. So hey instead of adding some of our most efficient workers (low pay, high labor output) to the tax base, let's commit crimes against humanity! Yeeeeehaw!

We all know the brain drain started in academia, but I'm surprised I don't hear about it in just about every field.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago

considering russia is funding the anti-foreigner group in japan.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

As opponents, separated by uniformed police and bodyguards, accuse him of racism, Kamiya shouts back, saying he is only talking common sense.

He said the thing! But seriously, over the years I’ve learned that any politicians who use the term “common sense” is a red flag. It’s like an easy wild card that can mean anything anyone wishes to hear

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

Also their demographic is in the process of collapsing. In the medium term, if they want a functioning economy, they need immigration

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm surprised it took them this long to go full mask off with their xenophobia.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Dang, it sucks seeing people from my favorite country fall prey to small-minded views like this. I know Japan is not perfect but like how a parent dotes over their child, I can’t help but see the good in Japan and its potential.

When I lived in Japan I definitely encountered my fair share of racism and people who did not like foreigners. But on the other hand, there were also a lot of Japanese people that liked learning about other cultures and even ones that didn’t hold their arms open to welcome foreigners were usually at least tolerant of foreigners (never saw or heard of anyone actually committing crimes against foreigners).

I do think Japan has a long way to go in terms of accepting other cultures and creating a more equal and open society within their own culture. While I used to admire their steadfastness, in how they have stuck with their historical traditions, I now see it as something that’s holding them back. The ideal outcome I think would be Japan keeping the parts of its culture that makes it unique but that’s not harmful to people and then accepting or inviting in ideas and qualities of other cultures that will advance social equality for all. But we don’t live in such a perfect world and even if things go in that direction, that kind of societal change probably won’t happen in our lifetimes.

Somewhat counter to this though, there’s also the point other users have brought up that a shrinking population isn’t necessarily the worst problem for a country to face, especially one on a chain of islands. So in a way one could understand where some Japanese people are coming from when they say things like they don’t want more people to settle there. Of course it’s a different point if a population is being forcibly restricted, but in Japan’s case it doesn’t feel/seem that way. There are a number of reasons why their population is in decline, but to me they aren’t all bad reasons. I think instinctually Japanese people feel that they’re nearing the limit of what their resources can support and generally speaking they are a well educated population, and educated people/couples generally have less children than those who spend less time in education. So, while it would be great if they could change/update their culture to be less xenophobic, I also think they have a right to pursue a population sustainable future if that means limiting the amount of foreigners that can immigrate.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Is anyone making a list of those anti-foreigner countries, so we know where not to shop, where not to visit, and where not to invest in?

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

A better question is if you can name a country that isn't "anti-foreigner" or don't have a significant % of the population that's anti-foreigner. This is a widespread problem everywhere you go, even supposedly "woke" European countries (especially those countries, really).

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

Vietnam seems very accepting, even towards Americans and French.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sweden is becoming pretty bad in that regard too, they recently cracked down on immigration because old white people don't like people of color.

[–] discount_door_garlic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

In defence of Sweden, they did mismanage a lot of the post-2016 migration by ignoring migrants and refugees once settled, and taking a pretty relaxed approach to integration.

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[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A better question would be is anyone making a list of the people financing these candidates. Id bet anything if you follow the money trail, there's a common denominator.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Billionaires who want the working class divided against itself. Some of them might even be from other countries, but I strongly suspect any foreign influence is dwarfed by local oligarchs.

[–] bss03 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My list so far:

  • United States of America
  • Hungary
  • Russia
  • Japan

But... I expect there are a lot more.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 16 hours ago

In addition Australia, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, France, UK, Germany off the top of my head .

I think the list of pro immigration non racist countries is smaller. Spain is sort of accepting I guess?

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Wait... wait Your list is mild.. let me add these and feel free to look up each on youtube and wikipedia:

Canada : against Indians , Africans, Arabs + others

Germany : against Romania , Turkish + everyone thats not white

Norway & Sweden : against Romania and Syrian and Iraqi regufees.

Netherland & Italy: againat Gypsies, Romania & Africans

France : against Moroccons & Lybia & Africans

Australia : againat Indians and nonwhite

Irland & UK : against Indians, Pakistan, Arabs and others who are nonwhites

... And here more are some unexpected ones: Developing and 3rd world countries:

Thailand : against Mynamar & Lao + others

India : against Bangladesh and Nepal.

Bangladish : against Myanmar (Rohingya).

Pakistan : against Afghans

South Africa : against migrants from Zimbabwe, Mozambique + others

Kenya : againat Somalis and Nairobi.

Nigeria : against Niger, Chad, and Cameroon.

Lebanon: against Syria and Palestine

Kuwait: against Eygptions and Syria, Lebanese + others

Ethiopia : against Somalia and Eritrea

Honduras : against El Salvador and Guatemala.

Venzula : against Columbia

And... that's why xenophobia and socio-economy leave me speechless because I'm pretty sure I have not listed all. It's really just worldwide , and they all cry about forigners hiking up housings and rents, and taking our jobs.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

China, against Japanese and Koreans.

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[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's actually scary how quick they're rising. I live in Japan, and I once heard them at a intersection nearby on a car giving a speech. I hated how they speak. They sounded like they were heavily appealing to the emotion and used a lot of sentence final particles like ne, in a tone that sounded half-aggressive and also... very conservative in a way. They were talking some shit about how Japanese people should come first and that we should "protect Japan", as if there was some sort of foreign force trying to tear Japan down to pieces. What's worse was that there were actually people cheering for them. I actually wanted to go downstairs to shout at them but I restrained myself from doing that. I still sort of regret not going there to shout at them.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're scared. If you believe the info out there, population collapse is imminent. Someone shouting out patriotism, rallying the people, is probably a comforting thought to them. They need someone to blame, the outsiders are easiest.

When people don't feel they can afford the time and money to have kids, populations break and noone is addressing it. The world could probably stand to have some population regulation back down from 8bil, but this isn't the way :(

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They need someone to blame, the outsiders are easiest.

The first sign of a feeble mind.

Alas, it's so ubiquitous :(

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

It's absolutely horrifying how effective it is to stand in front of a group of people, name their fears and then suggest ill-concieved solutions to the fears. They're so desperate for someone to come along and solve their problems that they don't want to think critically about what is being said. Humanity as a whole is just so easy to control.

[–] olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their society will collapse from this racism in a generation or so. No point in correcting people who can't see the writing on the wall. As much as the current regime tries to deny it, immigrants have been the strength of the US.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That party is minority. So yeah, fuck them. But what about the rest of the people in the country? There are many well intentioned folks in Japan, some of them have some xenophobic beliefs, but that doesn't mean they'll all never learn.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago

But they haven't learned.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Japan's population crisis is caused by its young people being too overworked and overcharged to want to have children. Their population by age is becoming very top-heavy which means that the young are paying a lot to keep the old alive.

The solution to this (apart from don't get into such a situation) is to import young workers to even out your population spread and to raise wages in line with the cost of living and raising a family.

They appear to be shouting "Damn foreigners! Coming over here and making all our elderly live longer than we can economically support them! Overworking our breeding generation so they don't want kids! Curse those foreigners!"

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (10 children)

(overworks and robs an entire generation to death)

"Why would foreigners do this?"

Also I'm almost getting tired of posting this brilliant illustration but sheesh, if the jingoistic authoritarian entitlement clan isn't using the same playbook every. Time.

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[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Boomers of the world consumed all resources and pulled up all ladders behind them. American Boomers are especially oblivious to their roles in creating the current world, and seemingly oblivious to concepts like basic empathy. Their entire worldview is a function of how they can best benefit. "Generation Me," was the perfect tag.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Racism and xenophobia aside, how many humans do we need? Our poor earth. A declining population is probably an ok thing. I think it's the capitalist class ringing the alarm bell as they see their profit forecasts take a blow. How many hundreds of millions should that island hold?

[–] bss03 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm all for persons voluntarily opting to have fewer (or no) progeny. Certainly, that is my intent.

But, Malthus was wrong on so many levels, and regulating reproductive activity even with the best of intent is going to be abused by eugenicists for genocide.

The already posted SK vid explains how the current social systems in most countries need at least replacement birth rates. It might be possible to have a society that could survive less-than-replacement birth rates, but I don't see how.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

but I don’t see how.

Tax the F out of the rich and give it to child-bearing families. The amount is based on the rate of decline. Hand it out as a monthly stipend, and enforce checks for kids' quality of life.

Free government-staffed daycare.

3 Months Paid Paternity/Maternity, guaranteed jobs.

Free Fertility Clinics.

It's going to be expensive AF for a generation or two.

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be interesting as the New world order becomes a thing maybe, they shake things up and require everyone to return to whichever country their skin color matches. USA would become Native American again, and all the white people would have to go back to Europe 😄

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

What about mutts?

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