I was right now years old when I put those two things together.
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Another TIL right here
Conservatives across the world using God's name to persecute, oppress, and harm people they don't like.
While simultaneously insisting that saying "oh my god" is blasphemy of the highest order
We should just all start calling them blasphemers whenever gods name comes up in a political discussion.
Progressives really need to take back being the party of morality and religion. I am an atheist and even I recognize the need to play to this side. Republicans have claimed the party of morality and religion and Progressives never seem to call them out on it. Like the GOP platform is basically the opposite of the message of Christ and I never see them called out for it other than message boards and comment sections.
Ironically, if they had ever read the Bible, they'd know they tick all the boxes of the many scriptures that distinctly outline and warn of false Christians.
I'm convinced nothing pleases Satan more
I think the Satan mythology is one of the glaring silly points of christianity. You really believe god created satan and its satan that's tempting you with whatever sins. God created demons to turn you away from god? Idk man
The weird thing is a lot of them believe that Satan can essentially win and knock God off the top spot and take his job.
Isn't that kind of not the point of God?
I also love walking them down the road that if god is omniscient he knew the angels would "betray" him and if he is omnipotent he created the angels capable of "betrayal" and that no matter the outcome god chose it. So god can script the devil to win.
Those beliefs in an all powerful god sound a lot like a guy doing a sock puppet show if you put any thought into it.
look sometimes the butthole is for fun and sometimes it's for shit. and evangelical christian god is the biggest butthole i've heard of
This is one of the biggest aha moments for me regarding MAGA (and many groups like them). It's all a form of theater to them, similar to pro wrestling. They use words as shorthand.
Instead of looking at someone's behavior and deciding what words are fit to describe them, they do the opposite. They take the words* already associated with that person and use that to assume their behavior. That makes it very easy to foster their collective tribalism and also makes it very easy to fit yourself into their movement when you know the right words to use to describe yourself (making it an incredibly ripe environment for conmen and corruption).
There are elements of this way of thinking on the left but it is not nearly as promenent, I believe because to be on the left you have to be open to nuance and willing/able to consider complicated ideas in order to be able to seriously consider leftist positions.
*It must be noted also depends on their understanding of the word as well, but the point still stands - they make assumptions based on their understanding of the noun. It's real mushy-brained behavior.
No but see it's okay because we can just focus really hard and punish really brutally for the frivolous silly thing!
I feel like people should make more left-wing christianity propaganda.
Like maybe a shirt with that quote about "a camel being able to pass through a needle before a rich guy goes to heaven." Then like a picture of a camel looking at a needle and then underneath some rich bro in a fancy car burning in hell. I'm talking shitty boomer/christian/"AI" cartoon style.
There is hella material in the gospels for this kind of propaganda. The sermon on the mount could make a whole series. Sadly I never see it.
I feel like people should make more left-wing christianity propaganda.
As an atheist I'm considering it. Jesus doesn't need to be real to have a thing or two to say about the practice of religion, morals, or even ethics. There's a lot of bad takes in the bible, but some good parables too. Also, there's a fair amount in the new testament that has nothing to do with god for that matter. If it meets people where their heads are, speaking their language is worth considering.
I remember a meme I saw once that said something like
Jesus was an anarchist
His followers are statist bootlickers
I may not be rembering correctly but it was funny
Even better: he's anti-colonialism too. Israel in his time was an occupied territory, and was executed by that invading force: The Romans. I have a hard time imagining anyone mid-crucifixion thinking "eh, these guys ain't so bad."
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To be fair, it's both. It basically just says "Don't invoke God's name unless it's important". Don't swear by God unless you actually mean it, don't call out his name in thanks unless you genuinely believe it, and so on and so on.
Tbh it could have just been God going "You know how you get a ping when someone does an @everyone on Discord and it really annoys you? Yeah well I get that whenever someone uses my name, so knock it off unless it's important!"
God asking everyone to only @me for something really important and then having to mute notifications really makes a lot of sense overall.
No it isn’t. God has a name and it’s not God. The reason we refer to him as God and not his name is this exact reason, so as not to use it in vain.
I told my buddy that god has a proper name and he was like, “No way!” And I was like, “Yahweh!”
Because an all-knowing all-powerful being doesn't know when you're talking about it unless you use its birth name I guess
Im not Christian anymore but the more I study scripture the more I am inclined to believe God is neither all powerful or all knowing. For example if he was all knowing, he would have never promised Noah not to flood the earth again. There is not a chance in the universe that the world was more wicked in the past than it is today. If by no other standard than sheer numbers. More people have been killed in the last 200 years than humans alive in the time before Christ.
Yeah it's like when your mom calls you by your full name and you know you've really fucked up.
How would it even have a birth name?
You'll have to ask pacattack, I was being sarcastic
Maybe he shouldn't have so many names then lol
Ex-mormon here. I would say any of the curse words as a kid, but saying "God" as a curse was the line I never crossed. It was very self righteous.
Anyway, I see it in a very different light now.
I'm glad you see things differently.
I'm not opposed to belief in God, but institutionalized religion doesn't sit well as it seems largely as a method to control people.
That, and I could never get past the Epicurian paradox.
Damn. That fact is a great example of how Christianity was used to manipulate people
Losing sight of the morals to perform the rituals.
They never cared about morals for themselves - they want to gain an advantage for themselves by forcing "morals" upon others.
To me, a system of morals implies something that can be assimilated to, where the end state is either membership of the in-group or joining a tolerated but "moral" out-group. That's not happening either: it's insurmountable classism or segregation at best.
religion is and always has been a way to manipulate and control the weak minded.
Is it the reason why you were stoned to death if you said Jehovah?
I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'
Blasphemy! He's said it again!
throws stone
Well, "In vain" means to do something without success, so of course conservatives of all ilks think it's fine to do, as long as they're winning.
No that's giving them way too much credit, they're just empathy free parasites sucking all the sustenance they can.
The way the word is used in Hebrew isn’t that meaning of vain. It is vain in the sense of “vanity.” Emptiness of speech, lying, etc.
Martin Luther interprets the commandment thusly:
You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God.
What does this mean? We should fear and love God so that we do not curse, swear, use satanic arts, lie, or deceive by His name, but call upon it in every trouble, pray, praise, and give thanks.
And I think lying and deceiving very much encompasses the way the “Christian” Nationalists manipulate the religious.
This is what I get for trying to reproduce conservative brain thoughts without an explicit tag. I blame myself. (I was raised old school Catholic and know this but it's basically deep lore for anyone unfamiliar, so thank you for adding that context. I love that people on Lemmy do this FAR more often than ever happened on that other site.)
The way the word is used in Hebrew isn’t that meaning of vain. It is vain in the sense of “vanity.” Emptiness of speech, lying, etc.
This. The word used in the original Hebrew is "shav" (שוא) - which can mean either "vain" or "false" - and the original meaning of the commandant is to not swear in God's name on something that's not true. Of course, the religious leadership immediately thought "well, we're obviously not going to refrain from lying, and refusing to invoke God's name just because we're lying is going to make it suspicious, so let's just say we are not supposed to invoke his name at all"
I mean, that's all he's for.
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