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Here is an Invidious link for a video (34min) and the original YT link.

Beijing is seeking to court Canadians with trade deals. But it is simultaneously punishing Canada for adopting anti-Chinese trade laws, which – as the Chinese are quick to point out – were implemented by Canada in response to American pressure to crack down on unfair Chinese trade practices.

Now, we’re seeing growing numbers of Canadians twisting the logic of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” They’re taking this to mean that the enemy of Canada is the United States, and by that logic, the People’s Republic of China must be Canada's friend.

To offer his perspective on how Canadians should view these developments, Dr. Stephen Nagy joins Inside Policy Talks. Nagy is a professor at Tokyo’s International Christian University, and a senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute. He’s studied and written extensively about China and its influence operations in the West.

On the podcast, he tells Jamie Tronnes, executive director of the Center for North American Prosperity and Security (CNAPS), that the Chinese government has "invested very heavily" in a strategy of "elite capture" focused on political and business leaders, "giving them preferred access to the Chinese market."

"This is to lock them into a kind of dependent relationship," says Nagy. "And I think that this has made Canada have tremendous challenges in terms of confronting a country that really wants to change the global order in a way that is contrary to Canadian interests."

Among Dr. Nagy's analyses is, As US-Canada ties unravel, Beijing pulls the threads:

While current Canada-US tensions create immediate policy challenges, the documented pattern of Chinese influence operations reveals a systematic effort to exploit these frictions for long-term strategic advantage.

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[–] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald%E2%80%93Laurier_Institute

MLI was described in 2012 as one of a new generation of similarly- minded think tanks to the Fraser Institute in a story published in the National Post. [401 The social democratic Broadbent Institute referred to the MacDonald-Laurier Institute as a "right-wing charity" in a 2018 article.141] MLI is one of ten Canadian think tanks that belong to the Atlas Network, a conservative and libertarian group.[10][11][42][43] MLI describes itself non-partisan. [13]

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works

You appear to engage in some form of whataboutism whenever there are posts critical of China. This doesn't add value to quality of discussion.

The issue raised in the linked post are, of coure, valid, but feel free to suggest better sources for this issue.

[–] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

For anyone going through my profile they can clearly see my problem is with poor and heavily bias sources. This has been done for Postmedia, Fraser Institute, Globe and Mail, The Canadian Press, individual reporters and even CBC with examples and links.

If you're referring to the comment about the other guy who's pretty much only posts about China. I think you were blinded by criticism of your post.

The comment I made showed that a company that's been around much longer than Tiktok has even existed and was caught doing the same if not worse things with no actions from essentially any government.

You guys view it as a distraction to the narrative that China is only country we should be focused on instead someone contextualizing the threats as a whole due to your bias.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Neither China nor the US are our friends. Our partnerships are with liberal democracies who respect a rules based order, just courts, democracy and the rule of law. (EU, UK, AUS, NZ, MEX, Most of south America etc.

Everyone else is at best just a "when convenient customer to be treated as sus. Very sus".

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Our elites are already captured by others. The reality is, there is no nationalism among elites in the global order with which we're familiar. There are only interests, and the more elite you become the more your interests become independent of national interests. If your interests are tied to the nation, it's because your material conditions are sufficiently limiting that you are confined in that box. So, any analysis of this can only make sense wrt how much a change would benefit the interests of different sub- national groups, not the nation as a whole. It's a fantasy to think "Canada's interests" represent the interests of all Canadians.

It's still worth trying to break down and understand how different governments and non- government actors are trying to influrnce or change systems that affect us, but national interests as a unifying frame for all Canadians is misleading no matter who's doing the influencing.