If those fools (the current batch of demos) ever regain power i do not EVER want to hear the word partisan again. I want NOTHING to ever go the republikkkans' way ever again. They've proven who they are. Fucking Nazis.
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this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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You guys need a multiparty system.
And you need to weaken your federal government.
And you need to stop worshipping a bunch of 18th century slave owners.
Basically, the American political system is ridiculous.
Reforming it requires either violence or consensus, that's why we're stuck here
We need ranked choice voting and compulsory voting. The people who could add their votes and make a difference don't vote because "one vote doesn't make a difference". We make voting compulsory and you're gonna see a lot of people that can't afford the fine for not voting turn out
Before mandatory voting, first the day of elections needs to be a mandatory day off, with large fines to anything but the most absolute essential emergency services running.
Run the elections over two or three days, and require absolutely everyone to be given at least two of them off, no exceptions.
We need a war and a new constitution. Hate to say it, but the countries that the Allies bombed to shit in WW2 and had multinational efforts to rebuild and restructure legally have fared better modifying their guiding documents than the US. We’re hamstrung by poorly defined ideals and the interpretations of some rights while others are written in stone by ideologues.
Under the Biden administration the Democrats had exactly 50 votes of 100 in the Senate if you factored in some very conservative Democrats who held everything up. If you don't want compromise you do need to vote in enough Dems to avoid Joe Manchin being able to hold everything up.
Y'all need to stop voting in paralyzed governments and then complaining they compromise and don't do anything.
Edit: This was not a fillibuster issue as they were always struggling to get 51 votes. And no, primarying Manchin was not the solution as the replacement would have just lost to a Republican who would have voted for Mitch McConnell as senate majority leader. Holding the Senate in a useful manner requires some margin.
Get a progressive to win a primary and Democrats are working with Republicans to defeat them.
What if, for every day the government is shut down, all elected members of congress, the senate, and maybe even the executive get 2 months taken off their term.
That way, they either get it figured out somewhat fast or we have a special election and elect people who can. Tired of these incompetent people getting away with being bad at their jobs. No other industry allows that - even food service workers can get felonies for mishandling food. That affects like, a few people at most. They are affecting MILLIONS
Fucking bots and fascists downvoting this
Yeah... that's how democracy works. You vote for a party to do what you want and it's going to take a lot longer than you'd like. You don't vote for a party that'll do what you want and things get worse for you.
It's sad how Americans on both the left and the right are against democracy now. The American people have failed democracy and are incapable of admitting it.
When republicans win, they get their wildest fantasies. When dems win, we get nothing done because one rust belt jackass refuses to vote in line
How long do people need to wait though? It's been bummer comprise candidate after bummer compromise candidate for 50+ years while peoples lives are getting worse.
Rent is up, medical care is up, food is up, transportation is up, housing is up, yet wages are stagnant.
50% of all economic activity is driven by the top 10%, the working class is being entirely cut out of the economy as a consideration.
Sure the democrats are better than republicans, but that doesn't help people afford rent or go to the doctor, so wtf are people really voting for? The chance that in 20 years after a lot of compromise things might be slightly better maybe?
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When was the last time the Democrats held 50+ percent in both houses to pass legislation without needing to cooperate? Believe it was Obama for 2 months in 2009. So all complaining about this for the last decade has been moot.
60% for Obama, which is what was needed to overcome the filibuster, an utterly broken part of Senate procedure.
We had 50+VP for the first two Biden years, but that gave us no room to negotiate with our own party - or 'our own' party, considering that two of the most troublesome fuckwits later became independents when they decided they'd done all the damage they could inside the party. Add to Biden himself being not much more than a milquetoast moderate twat, and you have a recipe for very little getting done.
Not nothing. But not nearly what needed to be done, realistically speaking.
The filibuster is why the government shut down instead of cutting even more social safety net. Until the magat movement completely dies, it is a necessary tool for situations like right now. We need a way to stop the stupid majority as a minority
Why is that 60+ not a requirement for Republicans to pass the legislation and ratify nominations that they want? The Republicans haven't met that threshold since the 67th Congress back in 1921.
The 119th, 115th, 108th and 109th congresses which were all Republican trifectas didn't meet that criteria and the "tea party" and "establishment" flavors certainly aren't any more of a unified front than the democratic party.
The current legislation they are trying to pass in the Senate is an example. Part of the reason we are in a shutdown, from a legal standpoint, is because Republicans do not have the votes to bypass the filibuster.
As for why nominations don’t require the 60%+ threshold? Because it was something previously agreed between both parties. There are very few things that you can actually Filibuster. You may have heard of budget resolutions as an alternative to getting things passed, it’s for if they want specific economic legislation passed that can’t be filibustered.
Either party could in-theory get rid of the Filibuster, but that is a can of worms neither party wants to go for as a short-term win. The Filibuster is what prevents the worst legislation from even seeing the light of day.
The only reason I could see Dems getting rid of the Filibuster would be if they wanted to uncap the House, but that in itself would require a Dem trifecta and over 50 members in the Senate willing to approve uncapping the House.
Because Republicans don't infight anywhere near as much a Democrats.
I'm pretty convinced that trump has gotten as far as he has because the Democrats parts is like 50/50 corporate shills on Trump's payroll and ideologues.
Of course we never get anything done. Half the party is hellbent on selling out their constituents and the other on performative "moral victories."
Because Republicans don't infight anywhere near as much a Democrats.
Oh, they do. But it is significantly less theatrical.
Half the party is hellbent on selling out their constituents and the other on performative "moral victories."
Beautifully said, and that's what I wanted to draw attention to.
Oh, they do. But it is significantly less theatrical.
Then they are the stupidest political party in the history of democracy as a concept. We're Americans, if it's not in the media it doesn't exist.
We had exactly 60 seats for all of like two effective weeks in 2009, due to various issues. And not only that, a good portion of the dems in that coalition were blue dogs - senators from IA, ND, IN, and MO.
People acting like we've had 30+ Bernies in the caucus are weird.
We're poopooing Obama having the largest majority since reconstruction? Come the fuck on. What have the Republicans been doing with way less "power"? Democrats are useless.
It seems like that’s exactly the point, progressive democrats are very few and not even that progressive except for a few outliers.
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THE TRUTH is there so much voter suppression and rigging voting machines going on many places dont get much representation. aside from gerrymandering. this discourages voters, and thats what gop wants.
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The dems are entirely lame while in office.
That's still LEAGUES better than the genocidal fascists of the GOP.
Maybe if you want progressive reforms, stop bitching and vote for progressives in the primaries. Not that it'll matter now since millions let the fascists win so we won't have any elections any more.
And the dems aren't genocidal? Give me a break. People forget the genocide started and was aided by Biden. Before him people forget that all presidents (including Obama) had the same foreign policy of bombing brown people.
Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. "We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support".
Bernie was the compromise, and the dem establishment essentially antidemocratically couped him out. Now the dems deal with the consequences: they'd rather see Trump in office than a progressive (look at the collabbing between dems and reps in derailing Mamdani).
Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists
I know we’re just throwing numbers around here but wasn’t the margin like 1%?
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The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn't hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump's a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it's too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say "fuck it" and not vote.
They're still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
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Show up to the fucking primaries and help progressives put fucking progressives in Dem seats. Otherwise these neoliberal ghouls will keep warming the fucking seats, though that's assuming the current fascist regime is too busy tripping over its own distended asshole to successfully implement the one-party state it so desperately desires.
Bernie got 25% of the vote in the 2020 primaries. We fucking need people out here.
Nah, much easier bitching online and saying there's somehow soooo much support for progressive causes. /s.
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The illusion of choice...
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