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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 4 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

Right now the source is hosted under v.reddit.it. is there a mirror we can link to or use?

Reddit being reddit can quickly get rid of that video. And removing that dependency would be so nice.

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I'm not sure about where to post it, but I did download it...

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 13 points 1 hour ago

Your average ICE officer has the mind of a 3rd grade bully with a racist dad.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It is fucking wild we've all lived long enough to see the POLICE start to speak out against authoritarianism.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago

"They're ruining it for us!"

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 24 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I just hope there is some level of accountability once we emerge from this fascist regime.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 hours ago

We all have to make sure there is

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago

Death to every Nazi. They know exactly what they are doing.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

And if the masked guy did it, then everyone wearing a mask is guilty right?

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Only the protesters with masks on actually.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

How do you tell masked people apart?

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 minutes ago

Any tom, dick and harry can dress like a ghostbuster.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

The giy was just standing there and they sucker punched him from the back. Wtf

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 37 points 6 hours ago

i hope i live long enough to see these fucks lined up against A wall by fellow citizens, and taught a very short lesson in antifa justice

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

[serious question]

What is the government suggesting is the justification for this particular abuse of power?

I know it's bullshit. I'm just curious what bullshit they're using for this.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

"Immigrants are violent criminals and we need to deport them at all costs"

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The government wants to squeeze and provoke violent acts so they can squeeze more.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that's going to be the justification they use in court.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

If it's the current SCOTUS he can use his South Park quote, "Hey guy! I'm Trump!". And be released.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago

I'll take a whack at it: "Officer safety."

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

As someone who lives near Portland, the fact that Portland police even testified about excessive force means it's bad.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Seriously, the whole reason the right is obsessed with Portland now is that the Portland police used incredible levels of excessive force to put down BLM protests. And since they believe the police are always in the right, then Portland must be a hellhole. I used to live in one of the smaller towns in Oregon and mentioning that I went up to Portland for a day would typically result in someone telling me I was lucky I wasn't shot. Never mind that the PPB is so brutal that the federal government sued them for excessive force back in 2012. To unfortunately minimal effect. That you can be too brutal for Portland police is just insane.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, they clearly just tackle a guy from behind out of nowhere. A guy who's minding his own businesses and just standing there in the least threatening manner possible.

Also very revealing that they specifically target the guy wearing hippie-looking clothes, most likely because they associate that with left wing ideology and their remit is to remove "undesirables" regardless of whether or not they're a threat to anyone.

So yeah, this is so blatant that it's frankly not surprising that even the fascist PPD consider it beyond the pale/giving away the game.

[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 1 points 50 seconds ago

I'm curious to know what he's holding, and tried to retrieve. Looks a bit like a speaker or something. I wonder if that played a part in this. I'm not saying it's justified in anyway, just curious to know what it is.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 2 hours ago

Maybe it's they would prefer a wardrobe change?

Cold-Weather Clothing Layering for Your Tactical Kit

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They'd lose their minds at Becky's Drive-in. During the labor day movie marathon, they sell tie-dyed t-shirts. Tons of people are wearing them. They wouldn't be able to figure out whose rights to violate first.

I'm kidding of course. They'd be outnumbered, so they'd just run away.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 120 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

All of fuck sticks in uniform deserve a year's jail time at a minimum. Assaulting peaceful protesters? Fuck that.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 90 points 14 hours ago

They are traitors to the people/country. Basically the 'domestic terrorists' they keep talking about. They deserve way more than 1 year.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

All these nazis need to end up in those private prisons they’re building

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Too good of a future for them tbh, and I wouldn’t wish that on the most violent drug dealer.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 56 points 14 hours ago

Holy shit. I don’t know what I was expecting, but it wasn’t that. WOW. Fuckers.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago

I remember seeing this from another angle when it happened. Fuck ICE

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This whole country? Unfortunately, yes.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, the government and their cronies.

Still a lot of decent and even a few good people here. They're disempowered, and largely in crisis, though... The only ones truly "thriving" are the ones oppressing the others.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

If we're so good, then we ought to prove it.

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 35 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Now, I'm not saying anything at all, but those helmets they use are terrible against blunt force hits from a baseball bat repetitively swung at full force, theoretically speaking.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 25 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

These people were Given BILLIONS of Dollars to Kidnap Children to Undisclosed locations! THANK YOU REPUBLICANS! WE LOVE YOU!

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