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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 83 points 5 days ago (4 children)

He's not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he's just sparkling child molester.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago

Megan Kelly follows the "if you're old enough to bleed, you're old enough to breed" playbook.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Her child should be removed from her custody.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 222 points 6 days ago (8 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

She should not be able to walk down the street without constant reminder of making this statement about victims of sex trafficking. Absolute monster of a person.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago (6 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

"There really is, one is annoying and one is hot". -Trump, probably

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Megan Kelly has a 15 year old daughter, someone should call CPS and look into this poor kid if her mom thinks a grown man grooming her isnt a bad thing

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 168 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Yes, it's technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia. That doesn't change the level of disdain.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Yes, it’s technically

Exactly the same if I started to call driving with a blood alcohol level between 0.8% and 25% "happy fun time driving" and pretended that means it's no longer the same as DUI...

People can make up all the terms they want, don't change the law tho.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia

You've been made mod of r/Libertarian

That doesn't change the level of disdain.

You've been removed as mod for r/Libertarian

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 131 points 6 days ago (24 children)

Holy shit they're actually doing the hebophile bit

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it's impossible to explain without sounding like a pedophile....

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

It's only paedophilia if it comes from the pedophile region of Alabama. Otherwise it's just sparkling ephebophilia.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 125 points 6 days ago

Look at those goalposts go!

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 118 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It is so predictable that conservatives would end up in "Pedophilia isn't that bad" once it became undeniable that Great Leader raped little girls.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

funny that QAnon stuff circled around Dems having pedo-leanings and that was an OUTRAGE yet now it turns out to be OK, Humane even... wtf? Their morals exist only to stick it to anyone opposing them and they evaporate the second one of their own is caught doing exact thing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Q-anon was never about children.

It was always about the fantasy headline: "Uneducated Everyman Uncovers Massive, World-Altering Secrets and Becomes Huge Hero by Decoding Publicly Published Materials for Unique Connections and Number Puzzles"

They are entirely damaged or dumb or religiously brainwashed people who are so deeply insecure about their lack of factual understanding of the world, that Q-anon became their "gateway" to some kind of real way to impact the world and be recognized for something good.

When a family member of mine fell down this pitcher-plant of mental illness and delusion, I went deep and hard into learning everything I could about the movement and conspiracy culture. Sadly my family member could not be pulled out and was at one point arrested for trying to... abduct girls. Seriously. He rationalized that he was trying to "save" them.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

goddamn this fucking talking point is spreading. Just yesterday I was watching a video where some maga piece of shit was questioning a streamer about why he thinks its wrong that adults rape 13 year olds. Pretty soon we're going to have absolutely no choice except physical violence.

for ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ovted6/we_breathe_the_same_air_as_these_people/

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago

This talking point is very popular among the right wing libertarian guys who are so offputting they cannot date their peers.

It’s also popular among Christian fascist theocrats who want to be able to date and marry children.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 70 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Im sorry, is this a conversation about the degree to which he is a pedophile?

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

She has a 14 year old daughter

If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is "actually 15 year olds aren't kids" then that person is a pedo.

[–] varjen@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (7 children)

If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I'm going to think of you as a pedophile.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thank God the Right is out here protecting our kids from transpeople. /sarcasm

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Let's be real. The right is "protecting kids from trans people" because they think transexuality is socially contagious and they don't want to fuck trans kids.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The rates of rape experienced by trans people suggest you're entirely wrong about that last part.

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[–] JustKeepStretching@lemmy.world 68 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is one of the wildest most disgusting goal post moves I've ever heard

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[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ohh okay so now we’re going with the “they’re mature to marry once they hit puberty” thing Somalia does. I feel real bad for Megyn Kelly’s 14 year old daughter.

What a POS

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Lookit that, ephebophile strat went mainstream.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago

What are they even defending here. Even if they were 18 year old trafficked women it would be heinous.

It’s not like he was dating young girls or some shit, this is about sex crimes of which their age is only one of the awful awful factors.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Here it begins. Republicans will want to normalize pedophilia.

These people are sick. Saying this is public should earn a person an automatic 48 hour mental welfare hold.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Narcissists Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad. <----- We are here
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

progress at last

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, Megyn, glad it's not some guy spouting "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" like my drunk uncle at Thanksgiving...

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

"If there's grass on the field, play ball!" -Megyn Kelly

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Oh, they're going the "explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile" route. Let's see if it works out for them.

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (5 children)

"This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls," she continued. "I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

"And that is what I believed and that is what I reliably was told for many years."

Kelly admitted that she began to change her opinion after Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Epstein had thousands of videos with child sexual abuse material.

"For the first time, I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile," the conservative host recalled.

Megan "I was fine with him fucking teenagers" Kelly, everyone.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Getting out in front of the Epstein release I see.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's already been pointed out how wrong and gross this is.

But for the sake of discussion let's give her the biggest possible benefit of the doubt.

So then the president of the united states was ONLY a human sex slave trafficker. Super.

unfortunately I think her handlers know that simply planting a seed of doubt will work on many in their audience.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And child rapist. Even if you want to be pedantic about what qualifies as pedophilia, statutory rape is still rape and some who’s not an adult is still a child.

And if you want to be extra pedantic, it’s worse. Following a response above, one is a mental disorder that can be lived with, whereas the other is taking action, actually sexually assaulting children

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Law enforcement baits out pedos to arrest using fake 16 year olds all day long. They can't spin this.

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[–] Ibex@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

The damage control has started. The bad thing is I can see some people being ok with her statements.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pedophilia isn't pedophilia?

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

The "um it's ackchually ephebophilia" is spreading to the auth-right!

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

He's a hebephile not a pedophile isn't much of a defence. So he goes after 11+yo children instead of children less than 11yo? Also most people don't know, or rightly care, about the age distinction - both are child abusers.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's like what critters are or aren't "bugs"

Entomologists usually limit it to Hemiptera, or even a more specific sub-order, while colloquially it just means any terrestrial arthropod

Ants, bees, beetles, and butterflies technically aren't "Bugs", but they're still bugs.

Adults who fantasize about or engage in sex acts with minors above the age of 13 technically aren't "Pedophiles", but they're still pedophiles.

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The age puberty starts has been dropping and it now occurs earlier than ever in recorded history

But I imagine this fact actually appeals to conservatives and republicans

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

I wonder if I'm even capable of being so dedicated to someone that I'd become such a gross fucking weirdo to defend them.

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