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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Insert all idioms that emphasise at how obvious it is.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago

I haven't seen anyone talk about how that's only a win for the evidence tamperers if there are no clean copies in the hands of other actors - and it's absurd to imagine there's not. All they've done is put themselves in the power of another (likely to be a state actor), and probably one they were already vulnerable to, if I'm any guess.

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

So the Democrats will get better by filtering and the Republicans will stay bad. Brilliant strategy to get the Dems back in power.

[–] Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As I've said before we are probably going to get two versions of the Epstein files the one edited by trump that will probably be released first and the real one that will be released later when Trump is dead or out of office in some way

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I don't think we'll have to wait that long because there are enough people who have copies that will leak them. Or they have already and people are not reporting on it yet.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The real files might be released decades from now when they are no longer relevant.

[–] Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep that's the problem we might not see the real files until after Trump is long dead

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Like the Mueller Report "summary"

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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 193 points 1 day ago

I wasn’t aware Jeffrey’s brother knew Captain Obvious

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 167 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean the 1,000 FBI agents, reported back in July, that were tasked with flagging references to Trump weren't just making a fun Facebook style memories reel for the Orange One?

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We just need one to break ranks. I know it's unlikely, any whistleblower's life is pretty much over. But come one, it's time to wikileaks this shit

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One did. On a date. This made mainstream news 2 months ago: https://youtu.be/tx5F6llyaVw

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

I mean that’s speculation from someone who was supposedly not involved, not really a “whistleblower”.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From a historical context when does the public start getting mad enough to guillotine the wealthy pedofile cabal?

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh you mean Trump just saying the other day that "it's all Democrats" in the files anyway wasn't him essentially admitting that they removed all the Republicans from it. Gee color me shocked.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So when he suddenly demanded the release of the files the other day, it wasn't his characteristic humble contrition but just knowing they finished the data purge?

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What are steps we should take when this happens? I'm not directly asking you, but more the room. Like what is gonna happen if he releases the files and only Dems are on it? That's what got me worried.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

Theyre going to pretend only dems were in it and use politics to go after them. And the news reporters will go along with it.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And not a single victim's name will be redacted.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

We can’t have expected anything different. Neither party wants the truth out there, so they’ll trade alternating versions of “the truth”, and pretend to argue over it, in order to hide the real truth.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The redacting has already occurred when Trump tasked the Justice Department with it, now it's in too many hands to be edited by one person. Senate committees and judges. The redacting that did happen was obviously not very thorough or else they were busy erasing really bad shit. Don't look for the guys Trump hired to have been very good at their jobs.

Trump's actually weak for once, this is one of several spears in his soft disgusting underbelly. Redistricting is not looking good all of a sudden, Texas's map was rejected but California's might yet stand, oops! Self inflicted wound there. So now he's suddenly being perceived as a lame duck because, how's he supposed to get a third term without Congress on his side?

Once they feel like the ground is soft, his entire party will run to a better camp... notice how other leaders are setting up big tents right now... his only threat is his ability to primary people, but that'll be gone in an instant when public perception slides out of his control. Trump is trying to stay ahead of it right now, playing it the usual way.

This article is just Jeff's brother trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. Bet he's got a book deal brewing. I do like that the media is showing this idea to people tho, lots of idiots read People.

Tl;dr I am not worried about it so much, Trump's undoing may be right at hand.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

And Trump will immediately lose power a year from now unless he can find a way to change the Constitution to let himself serve a third term, which I don't think is very likely, and also he's old so no one really thinks he's going to live that long.

So I'm interested to see how long these sick bastards drag this process out.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The journalist that went on a date with some MAGA fbi, who bragged about scrubbing out Republicans and leaving in democrats, also confirms this story

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it depends on how much the implicated billionaires and some of the smarter Republicans are involved in editing the files.

If the Trump admin is doing it alone, I bet that this redaction will be completed so sloppily and incompetently, there will be enough crumbs and hints leftover that we'll be able to paint a picture to see more on how Trump and Republicans are involved.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

With any luck, some ethical career agents have done their job sloppily with purpose.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So like just turn the text background to black....it looks redacted.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m guessing the web of people involved is becoming difficult to manage. Like Bill Gates calls up and says hey don’t forget to remove my name. And then Bezos calls. And so on. If the billionaires start to become unhappy, I predict it won’t be another kid who couldn’t make the high school rifle club that takes the next shot. It won’t be maxipad on the ear week. But unless they redact like 99% of it, yeah it will be sloppy and fully of fuckups.

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Of course they are.

I would have been shocked had they not been.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago
[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

We know. That's why trump is now approving the release, he got word they've been cleaned.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why are we only suddenly hearing about this guy now?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Because he didn't exist until last week. He just berenstæined into existence.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The bill requires the justice department deliver a report on what was redacted including a list of names.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you believe they will comply?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, even if they don't believe he will, they have no enforcement mechanic they're willing to leverage. They're gonna release heavily redacted files, call it a day, and wait for the media cycle to change.

Every scandal is just this image on repeat.

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

And how would you know if that report will be telling the truth?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Not surprised, but someone has the original and copies. Fuck the Government of Putin.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe he should release the originals?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (10 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

That's not all of it.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Those are the Epstein emails, not the Epstein files.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Good fucking luck. These aren't paper files you can burn, and the reference trees are fucking DEEP.

Federal agencies use digital reference and versioning to make sure there is always a paper trail back to access and fucking with records. You can't go back and scrub these things just on the surface.

If you're familiar with code repositories like git or svn, it's like that. Anyone who accesses or changes a file is logged. Any deletions have revisions saved. All the links to external sources like court documents or witness testimony is kept on record similarly, and you can't go back and scrub the history like you could by just burning shit without breaking a whole bunch of stuff. There's always a source of truth in these systems.

I think they are imagining they keep access to these systems out of touch if anyone until Trump is safely out office is my guess. Then he thinks he can pardon it all away, but the history will be saved and accessible eventually.

Congress (or at least some of them) know how these systems work, and they'll find broken references or bad links to things that should exist and have gone "missing" once they dig in. I'd like to see the excuses for the disappearing of data when new subpoenas come out.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

without breaking a whole bunch of other stuff

They have shown a penchant for doing exactly that. The Whitehouse is literally in shambles. People need to stop acting like anything they say or do would ever be in good faith.

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[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

I recently got heavily down voted for suggesting that if they release, we couldn't trust the validity anyway.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago

Why are we trusting this guy again, though? Like I’m sure if they can be scrubbed they will be but seriously? Look at the fucking source man.

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