I closed that gate in 2004.
Still waiting for others to see it, and stop falling for it.
The sweeter the juice, the more dangerous the pitcher plant.
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Yarrr, I might take a gander
How about judging the series after it came out instead of judging a book by its cover? Even if the chances of it being good are slim, it still has a chance. And it would be awful to ignore an amazing series based on assumptions.
It’s not about the book, it’s the profits will go to evil villains and no one needs to see this so bad that it’s worth it.
They say capitalism can be managed by customers controlling their spending but people regularly put their own convenience above everyone else and so that never happens. Nestle doesn’t have to be good because people will still buy their garbage even if they printed “we stole the water to make this” right on the label.
It’s just a TV show. If you can’t live without it then you’re completely broken.
There are sites on the internet where you can download stuff in such a way that it will not profit anyone except maybe a VPN service.
I think the joke is more like judging the book by its publisher than by its cover. I would be hyped if all we saw was the cover, but that's probably also missing the point of giving the show a chance to either excite or disappoint.
Oooo...
What if it's the plot of Universe, but with all the camp and silliness from SG-1? 😮
Was SG-1 camp and silly? I guess some episodes were. It was made back when TV shows were allowed to be fun sometimes.
I'm cautiously optimistic if for no other reason than some of the original peeps are the ones creating it.
Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, The Witcher, The wheel of Time, have all been huge nerd properties. They were each in their own way, fantastic, and each of them destroyed by someone who either didnt understand them, or wanted to turn them into something else.
I fear the very same thing is about to befall one more 90s/00s nerd show. God knows what theyre about to do to Buffy, but I fear for that one as well.
I'm going to remain cautiously optimisic, they have a lot of the original SG-1 and Atlantis writers and team, as well as some of the crew associated to the movies. But to be honest I'm scared, and 10 episode seasons is already a taste for amazons poor management.
(I won't get over the SIX episodes for the final season of the Expanse, which I'd still consider a content quality win as far as amazon is involved)
Well, I saw that the showrunner is the same guy that was the show runner for the Quantum leap reboot... I guess thats probably a good indicator of where his heads at in bringing back old properties. It was also set up as a sequel to the older show. I guess we'll see, but I just cant be optimistic. I would LOVE to be proven wrong though. LOVE IT.
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I'm excited. I'm expecting Universe quality writing. i hope to be pleasantly surprised, but i don't expect it.
still gonna watch it tho. i just bought the damn dvd collection last winter i don't want to buy any more stargate shit for a while
This can vary a lot from Stargate fan to Stargate fan, is Universe quality writing a good thing or a bad thing?
From seeing the people in charge and how they handled the announcement, I'm kind of expecting something in line with SG-1/Atlantis, but looking forward to hearing more about the direction.
is Universe quality writing a good thing or a bad thing?
It's a bad thing.
Stargate, much of the time, was competency porn. Writers threw that away and did a man-vs-man-survival style story in an enclosed space aboard a runaway starship. The story heavily borrowed cues from LOST and Battlestar Galactica (reboot) instead, relying heavily on characters spontaneously acting blind/deaf/dumb for no reason, seemingly as a plot-device to keep the drama going. The way to survival and broader frontiers was clearly to just work together, but that was just constantly and frustratingly out of reach. When the audience is used to the opposite of all that, it makes for a very miserable watch.
Tbf, I still enjoyed it for what it was, while recognizing it was very different and not as good as it's predecessors. So long as it isn't worse than that, I'm happy for new Stargate content, although I'm holding out hope it will be more like the earlier iterations.
Sorry, best I can do is 20 episodes of Wormhole Extreme!
Honestly, I wouldn't be mad
Damn you, Jeffrey Bezos!!!
Universe was half stargate half cw teen drama.
Same here. Hopes are high, expectations are low.
But it's Bezos! I'm not giving Bezos any more money.
The new Critical Role cartoon series is out as well, and despite being a fan, I ain't watching that because it's on Prime. (I'm also not pirating it btw, I'll keep hoping that it'll eventually get released on BluRay or something)
Yarr.
Y'arr
(A bit like y'all, it means all the arrs. Not to be confused with Yar, that sleeps with the Tar.)
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A Blu-ray release would still be giving money to Amazon, since it's their production, though...?
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I was fine paying for Amazon to make the highest quality stuff that I wanted to see, like the Expanse, Invincible, the fucking Boys etc as I do believe I can't bemoan the lack of quality programming if I'm not helping foster it.
But then they included ads in the standard package and I jumped back into the high seas. Fuck that noise.
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I was trying to think of a way to shoehorn in my opinion on Wheel of Time, but fuck it, I'll just say it.
Wheel of Time sucked. They fucked it up badly.
Maybe you can clear this up for me, but I didn't like it because I couldn't "connect" with any of the characters. Many of the scenes, for all the amazing set, costume, and effects work, just felt flat and uninteresting. Also, the story as told just felt odd like it was hard to follow for some reason. Do you happen to know of a better breakdown of what went wrong here? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills since I can't exactly quantify why I found something with high production values not hitting the mark somehow.
I think it just had that ineffable quality of an adaptation where the people making it genuinely did not give a fuck about the source material. The fact that it ostensibly comes from such a great source gives their shitty, poorly thought out decisions an unearned confidence and gravity.
Most of the people watching it will never know that it shat all over all the things that made Wheel of Time great.
The books are slow at times, but everything has a payoff. Robert Jordan was ridiculously meticulous, where every little thing he introduced had a meaning, and more importantly everything followed a consistent set of rules. Like he wouldn't just give a modern Aes Sedai the ability to rendezvous with her lover 400 miles away just to create a sexy side plot. And if he did give her that ability, he'd have done it within the framework of the rules. Like the showrunners could have used that to introduce Tel'aran'rhiod (world of dreams) a little early, probably through the use of a ter'angreal (magical artifact with a specific function). Instead they didn't give a shit.
When it comes right down to it, they just didn't respect their audience. And when a show doesn't respect its audience, it leaves a stink.
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Produced by just means "paid for by," anyway.
So there's a chance it can still suck if Amazon pays the wrong people to make it.
Even if they pay the right people, it may still suck if they try to influence the creative process at all. Over all, I am not optimistic.
Note from the Executives: The SG-1 crew works for Blue Origin now. They use the Stargates to deliver Amazon packages.
Futurama: SG-1?
Stargate: Planet Express?
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I want to believe, I really do, but basically every “new version of thing I loved from childhood” has been profoundly disappointing.
My guess: [bad guy] comes back because [good guy] is actually bad guy now, in a complete reversal of their entire character growth arc, and [bad thing that we took care of in the last show] is back because [history erasing lazy writing so they can just tell the same story again].
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Amazon has financed the Expanse. That's it. The evil fuckers have zero credit to the quality of the TV adaptation. It was two seasons at SyFy - then, sadly but unsurprisingly, SyFy was unable to turn it into a source of revenue (Hi Firefly :( ) and amazon financed it because the shitbucket in chief at amazon is an Expanse fan.
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