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The military service, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security, has drafted a new policy that classifies such items “potentially divisive.”

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[–] CubitOom 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's a picture which should not be divIsive at all.

For some more about of Nazis in nooses, visit the Nuremberg executions

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

You mean soom-to-be MAGAts?

[–] nukeforyou@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

So.. we can draw trump in a noose and it's cool?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just show up at 1600 PA Ave with diy gallows. Nbd.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

We are a diy guillotine family young man, now start acting like it

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't try it, I'm not in the mood to be epsteined

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

I think you're too old

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 30 points 12 hours ago

Gotta focus on the truly hateful symbols, like rainbows, "everyone is welcome" signs, and abstract nouns.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 31 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

About 40% of Republican staffers have gone full Nazi at this point, and the rest (and their bosses) are ok with this. Just making sure their buddies can get military training is all

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

And guy in ~~CIA~~ FBI gets fired by kash patel for hanging rainbow flag. America is cooked

Edit: wrong glowies

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

It was FBI and when it happened this summer, it was a gut punch to the queer community. I'm really glad he's standing up in court over it.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

so the most hateful symbol ever made, the swastika, is now just potentially divisive… sweet….
i will say that the noose has a lot of meaning other than referring to lynchings… pretty popular in suicide and any other type of execution….
it’s certainly used as a hate symbol but it’s not always that.
e.g. Hangtown, California (although they did remove the noose from their city logo)
….
maybe they changed it because the swastika has much older cultural and religious meaning elsewhere?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 33 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

No, the swastika only has one meaning. It was changed from the original symbol, and so that original symbol is still safe. The swastika is the swastika, and it means nothing but hate and is worn by no one but cunts.

Edit: Lot of swastika apologists on this site...

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

The Nazi swastika is, not the others.

[–] itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't really accurate. I agree with your sentiment on some level... But the swastika has existed for thousands of years in many different forms in many different cultures. It was co opted for sure, but not really changed. I agree that it is predominantly used as a hate symbol in modern culture, but it's not quite as simple as you are putting it here, imho. Ancient Buddhist or Hindu temples shouldn't be torn down because of a madman that stole a symbol nonsensically that had nothing to do with Aryan superiority. Might be nice if someday it could be rehabbed but certainly today, in America especially it is generally used as only meaning one thing. Not trying to be pedantic, it's just not quite as cut and dry as you're representing.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think you are advocating for the wrong devil here, friend.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

In the Indian context, the reverse swastika (counter-clockwise, or sauvastika) symbolizes night, the goddess Kali, and tantric practices, while the right-facing swastika represents day, the sun (Surya), and auspiciousness. Both symbols are ancient and sacred in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, but the left-facing sauvastika is specifically associated with the night and Kali in Hindu tradition.

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Not disagreeing with current meaning behind the swastika, but it was appropriated from Sanskrit; it was not created to be hateful.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

It wasn't appropriated from Sanskrit, the design was a popular across the Indo-European cultures for millenia but happened to survive into modernity in Sanskrit. The Nazis ripped it from artifacts being found mainly in Germanic and Celtic archeology sites, they also ripped a bunch of other symbols but most of those were dropped by the start of the war, they also made the black sun symbol (I just woke up from a nap and can't rember the name) based off the solar symbols of ancient Neolithic to Bronze age Old European cultures.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It’s still used today in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

It’s not the reversed, 45-degree angle one the Nazis used to set theirs apart.

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

The tilted and reversed doesn't matter, the original one is allowed to be reversed and tilted as well, it's juat usually not tilted.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

i hope someday that will be the first thing people think of when they see it, again

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

ok: Lynchburg was founded in 1757 by John Lynch

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Charles Lynch was a Virginia Quaker,[12]: 23ff  planter, and Patriot who headed a county court in Virginia which imprisoned Loyalists during the American Revolutionary War,

read your own link… it wasn’t about murdering black people, originally….
i’m not not saying it’s just cool to have a hangman’s noose t-shirt in america, given the rest of history. But america kinda had a thing with hanging all sorts of people.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I did.

The verb comes from the phrase Lynch Law, a term for a punishment without trial. Two Americans during this era are generally credited for coining the phrase: Charles Lynch (1736–1796) and William Lynch (1742–1820), both of whom lived in Virginia in the 1780s.

The verb "to lynch"(like the city of Lynchburg) comes from the same family. Literally. Charles Lynch is older brother to John Lynch (abolitionist and founder of Lynchburg).

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

and they were lynching loyalists during the american revolution… what’s your point?

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

huh. Grew up in VB. TIL.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i’m assuming he was a direct descendant… just because i want to

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

In other news, ICE has now adopted the swastika and noose as their official departmental symbols

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Swastanoose it's a swastika with 4 nooses at each point.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

so can we make an ironic version to hang four of these traitors at a time or violence doesn't solve violence etc.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

They call that a circle merc.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

250,000 US Coast Guard Troops were deployed during WW2. A quarter of a million people. This is a hell of a disservice to their memory.

https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Conflicts/World-War-II/

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Even more sensationalism to get everyone to forget about the Epstein files.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago

Since it's under Homeland Security, it would be the dog murderer Gestapo Barbie or one of her underlings.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I am starting to think we need to overthrow this regime

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago