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Iraq dominated the headlines throughout the fall of 2002 and into the winter of 2003. Public opinion on the wisdom of war, however, stabilized relatively early and slightly in favor of war. Gallup found that from August 2002 through early March 2003 the share of Americans favoring war hovered in a relatively narrow range between a low of 52 percent and a high of 59 percent. By contrast, the share of the public opposed to war fluctuated between 35 percent and 43 percent.

Looks like Americans are even more happy with murdering people if its done by a puppet.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/rally-round-the-flag-opinion-in-the-united-states-before-and-after-the-iraq-war/

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Americans don't believe in anything, half of them can barely read, if you asked them whether Israel was justified in butchering 800 children the poll would most likely flip with 70% saying no, if you asked whether Israel has a "right to self-defense" without any qualification, probably 90% would say yes

If you asked them if Israel has the right to genocide the Palestinians, 50% would say "not sure" and 50% would say no, but 40% would vote yes if it was a closed ballot referendum item

Americans are incoherent lotus eaters who think the height of political intellectualism is enlightened centrism with "remote drone bombing" characteristics

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

“Were IDF soldiers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold justified in entering a Hamas school? 85% says yes”

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago (2 children)

60% of those people don’t even know what Palestine is

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago (5 children)

where that train derailed, right?

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Lmao oh yeah

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

if they can remember that far back in time

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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 78 points 2 years ago

Country built on genocide supports genocide shocked-pikachu

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Poll: 70% of bed bugs are currently thirsty for blood

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 2 years ago

70% of bedbugs currently in France

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 65 points 2 years ago

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what percentage of Americans could tell you what the Nakba was? 5%?

[–] Kereru@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Could 5% of Americans find Palestine on a map?

[–] cmhickman358@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Sure we can, we just point to where it says "Isreal."

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

5% would be incredibly impressive considering what I know about Americans

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

I think a solid third of Americans would think it's a racial slur.

[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago

While arguing with a co-worker about how what Israel is doing to oppress the Palestinians and how they have been pushed to this point, he asked me if I thought the Holocaust actually happened. It is beyond their comprehension that anyone would have any other opinion and it's easier to just assume I'm some weird conspiracy theorist.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

majority of americans support whatever they are told to support by the president and mass media

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[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Propagandists trotting out the fact that their propaganda worked, while fudging the results to make their propaganda look even more effective as a way to further their propaganda campaign.

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The poll also shows that it's only 27% in ages 18-34. Every age range is less and less propagandized on Israel. So that's nice.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Boomers definitely have some type of brain poison on the Israel issue, they collectively all just are evil on this issue

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lead poisoning is the blight of the age and it isn't taken seriously enough

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[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Boomers definitely have some type of brain poison on [all issues]

they are so plugged in it's fucking insane. even with the internet wildly accessible they still corral at the propaganda faucets and suck it straight down

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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Cool guess I hate 70% of Americans now

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

70% of americans astronaut-1

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[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if the news portraying palestinians as a turbo-raping, baby-beheading, anti-semetic zombie horde has anything to do with public opinion?

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

News be like: Surely they won't buy the 'enemy of the week #143 are also rapists' bit again are they?

Americans: YOU BETTER KEEP THAT SLOP COMING!

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

Fake polls. The fakest polls around. Nobody asked me.

[–] drhead@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That is a very open ended question so it shouldn't be that surprising that the results are like this. What part of the response are we talking about? Are we talking about whether it is justified for Israel to respond at all? Are we talking about whether the severity of their response is warranted? Who the fuck knows! Probably a lot more of the people who interpret it as the first would agree with the poll.

The propaganda is how this will be presented as 70% of Americans being pro-Israel, which this poll does not demonstrate.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

I hate these public opinion polls that: 1. Demonstrate how effective the prior waves of propaganda was were for informing the general public's opinion, and 2. Are themselves wielded by propagandists who show them off like "This is the popular/common opinion, so it must be [good], [correct],[normal], [popular], etc."

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thinking Israel is justified to respond at all is pro-Israel given the history of the nation

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

every american is a legitemate target , good to know..

[–] jimmyjazx@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

New law making it illegal to answer no

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

70% of 320,000,000 is 224,000,000

how tf are we going to build a gulag big enough for a quarter billion people

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

a lot of people dont really have strongly held beliefs, they just go with the status quo

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Something tells me if a revolution ever comes that 70% will still need a lot of re-education

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe we build a big wall

It'd be expensive though maybe Mexico can chip in

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

That bell curve meme where the lowest end is "we need to build a wall" and the middle is "building a wall is expensive and would solve nothing" and the high end is "we need to build a wall"

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Most Americans just look what’s on the news then get on with their day. The technical majority of public opinion alone doesn’t translate into political power when most people are generally apathetic beyond some performative politics to inject some engagement into their socially-starved lives.

In fact, it being only 70% (or even 80%) is likely a cause of concern for the state which used to enjoy near-unanimous support from the electorate in this issue in particular and calling Israel an apartheid state was something only kooks would say. Especially when pro-Palestinian and pro-ceasefire demonstrations have been met with state violence almost immediately (and so far look to be growing as the media consensus is cracking).

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[–] fuckmyphonefuckingsu@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

That's actually smaller than I would have thought given the propaganda environment

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Majority of Americans are easily led by whatever their empire tells them

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Remember that SpongeBob episode where patrick yells "because you told me so"? That's the average yank following the media.

Some years ago the majority of americans had a neutral to positive opinion on china, and after several years of constant china bad on msm opinions have obviously changed significantly

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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