Yes, finally! I’m ready for this shitty platform to fucking die already.
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"I wish all my friends would leave discord and go to an alternative chat platform"
The monkey paw curls and all your friends move to MS Teams.
what practical alternatives are out there? every gaming and streaming community seems to use discord, but i hate it on the basis of it being an enshittified, proprietary walled garden.
https://stoat.chat/ is fully just discord but FOSS
Edit:their GitHub page
This will not take off until their native apps release and support self hosted rooms.
Is this the 3rd name change? or the 2nd?
The first. They've only changed name once.
Cause Revolut BANK sued their ass
Revolt != Revolut
Silly lawyers
Ahh interesting, thanks for the learning
None. Closest is Matrix, and it sucks for that purpose because it's more like Slack.
let the enshittification continue
How that MIGHT change things?
Just look at every other tech company in the space that’s gone public to see how it WILL change things. It’s not a mystery at this point.
The real question is how do you enshittify a product that is already shit?
Let the final enshitification commence
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Is discord not enshitty?
I open it and it updates 6 times, then I get a full page ad for nitro. Then all the settings push nitro. And all the “servers” push nitro.
discord is one of those things i struggle to find an alternative to. not because i lack the skill to do it myself or to make something else do the same tasks, but because all my friends who aren't as techy as me or big servers i like talking to wouldnt migrate.
having seen its decline since 2016, sooner or later ill have to make the jump but its gonna be harder than ditching google or microsoft because of the community aspect of it.
And so many things using it instead of a forum for information or questions
It’s especially bizzare when git repos for “open source corporate alternative” type software uses it over their own repo’s issue trackers and forums.
WTF
They want the social media engagement, I guess. But still. It’s ridiculous how much of a blind spot folks have for it.
It also makes giving or getting any kind of support a hellish time sink, but that’s almost besides the point…
It is an insane choice for a support tool.
A great problem of our society is there being too many problems to have any group of people focus on enough to get any of them solved.
If every issue has just 2% of people caring about it, companies can easily just write those 2% off and do business as usual.
This is why to not have an enshitifed world it has to be top down, and people have to participate in politics logically as opposed to based on which groups of people they hate.
The basic maths of it just doesn't work for any sort of bottom up action.
It would have to be a relative time of quiet and one company sticking out like a sore thumb for long enough for them to be damaged.
You have seen how rapidly things are getting worse.
There is not going to be that happening, and even if there were, it wouldn't be enough as there are thousands more issues.
I didn't think Discord could get any worse!
It will inevitably focus more on pleasing its public investors than anything else, therefore enshittification.
Maybe Steam/Valve is a unicorn, but it's not publicly traded and it's doing just fine.
It is a unicorn. I dread the day Gaben dies and Valve ends up going public. It feels like the last bastion of decent online services.
This news comes immediately after they floated the idea of embedding AI, you say?
Pretty much immediately after yeah
I'm guessing this will lead to more things being locked behind their subscription model. Ransoming core features for cash is the standard template of this process.
Well this gives me time to start my own Mumble server now
I ran one off a raspberry pi for years before we switched to discord. It just worked for voice chat.
Don't use Discord!
IRC and Matrix are better, free alternatives.
Matrix sadly doesn't have the bots, apj, or infrastructure that Discord has. Not to mention its a horrible alternative to Discord, not having permissionable channels is a deal breaker..
Trust me, I want to abandon this ship more than anything but my games/orgs/clans rely heavily on a lot of discord automation that just isn't even possible in Matrix.
IRC doesnt fit the usecase at all.
can't embed content on irc. that alone makes it not viable as alternative, because communities rely on this feature to share content and memes.
Discord got popular because it did Skype and Mumble better than both, but it has suffered a lot from Enshitification
I use both matrix and discord regularly and matrix is nowhere near a viable alternative for discord, the way they work is just too different. The only real alternative I've been able to find is guilded but it's no better than discord since it's still completely centralized and closed source
Came here to say this. Matrix is also a bit clunky still.