Also, and I'm just throwing this out there, maybe the circlejerk of nostalgia bait for Gen X/Millennials means fuck-all to younger people in general because it's the nostalgia of their parents, not their own thing?

Like, aren't we seeing this in so many different properties? As time marches on, interest wanes? Nobody cares about Marvel movies anymore. Nobody cares about Star Wars anymore. The most hardcore fanatics tend to be older and had the originals, which were literally original content, as things they grew up with. Part of the mystery and excitement of them was how much was left unexplained. Seriously, the Clone Wars was this mysterious fucking thing when it was just an offhand comment by Luke Skywalker in Star Wars: A New Hope. Now we have entire TV series dedicated to the background of the Clone Wars. Mystery gone. The first season of The Mandalorian brought back a sense of mystery to the series and then promptly dropped it to mix it in with every other piece of Star Wars memorabilia.

Young people want their own stuff that they're growing up with, they don't want rehashes of the shit their parents obsessed over.

Look at the continued interest in Adventure Time spinoffs, for example. Adventure Time first came out when I was just shy of 29. It would be fodder for the children of people just slightly older than me. It was also enjoyable for older folks who enjoyed silly fantasy, which gave it wider appeal. It persists more because it was an actual original thing that some people grew up with.

We live in an era where copyright that lasts 100 years after authorial death has broken corporations brains and they are scared to death of anything original in case it might not be a clear moneymaker. Letting interest in a new property grow over time is almost unheard of in the Netflix era of two seasons and then fuck you, it's over. So even when new properties are explored, most aren't given enough time to mature into something that becomes truly nostagliac for a younger generation.

If corporations want people to be as invested in long-lived series, they have to allow the option for new, interesting series to take the stage. Is it really a shocker that people are over games that started in the NES era? That young people want stories and ideas that reflect the world they live in, not the one their parents grew up in? Young people absolutely lose their shit over Undertale and Deltarune, both games made by a single auteur developer. Pokemon, referenced in the article, were sleeper hits that took time before they became an absolute craze.

I'm in my forties, and I constantly talk about how the world our parents brought us up to live in was dead before we were born. It's the same but at an accelerated pace for kids these days. The world we know and are trying to prepare them for no longer exists. Our stories and nostalgia become meaningless for our kids because it doesn't speak to their experiences.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I'm not kidding.

Honestly, what I miss most are the low budget straight-to-handheld spinoffs that used to flourish in that space. Handhelds especially felt like a space where developers weren't afraid to go wild with experiments, because development cycles were cheap and quick. But that attribute started to show cracks in the 3DS era, it was inevitable that this would no longer be sustainable when all of the budget had to go into bigger and bigger and bigger console games, while next generation handhelds also got more expensive to develop for too. There wasn't room for these quick and dirty side projects anymore.

A few years ago I was hit with the sack of bricks that is all Donkey Kong Country games being released one year apart. I have vivid memories of playing the second game for a very long time and then multiple times after while imagining what a third game would be like and you're telling me that was only one year? There's no way those games would mean so much to me if we had only had one per console generation.

Ill preface by saying I didnt read the article. But I also think that the state of gaming today is much worse than it was in the early 2000s for millennials.

When I was growing up, games had to come out complete so they were generally much more polished. However, when the Xbox360 came out, console makers gave the ability to devs to release patched versions via updates. Initially it was a great idea - devs could fix bugs they might have missed while testing. But then this quickly spiralled into studios forcing devs to release 1/2 baked games in a horribly broken state.

I also think how much you generally have to pay for games has gone way up with respect to the cost of living. Video gaming is much more of a luxury now, than a simple past time. Plus there are so many F2P mobile games out there, that there is even less of an incentive to get into a console / PC gaming.

• Diablo Immortal? F2P (i know theres probably micro transactions and bullshit)
• Diablo 4? PS5 ($500 - assuming you dont have the console already) + Diablo 4 ($67) + PS Plus ($14/month) = $581 + tax

When I was young, these were also basically the only two JRPGs that existed that I could get.

Now, there are countless thousands, and these are just two names amongst many. And FF really feels like they are just phoning it in recently for me personally.

SE’s obsession with making every mainline FF game a 100+ million dollar project with hours of cutscenes and a combat system ill suited to fight the skyscraper sized enemies is killing the series.

They’re obsessed with spectacle. Nobody really cares about spectacle anymore.

I think back to early 2000's, I was playing the Jak and daxter games all throughout elementary to highschool with a decent amount of replayability. Same with metal gear solid. And these were pretty fleshed out games worth the money back then.

Kingdom hearts was the first time I got fed up with development hell.

Isn't it true for the developers as well? If the game development lasts 5 years, you have quite a different team and ideas by the end compared to when you started.

In the age of no-new-IP, why does it take so long for new games to come out…

Same for elder scrolls or gta. Kids today get 1, maybe 2 games of their favorite series before they have to do adult things. The only teams releasing on a quick schedule are the shit mobile games.

I'd be fine with Square Enix going away. In my opinion, they got greedy and way too full of themselves. Nintendo as well, for that matter.

I cant even tell you the last original FF that came out.

There's not really a reason for games to be taking so long to make other than too many cooks in the corporate kitchen.

Back when studios were run by the developers, great games came out on almost a yearly basis. If they had 2 years? You're almost guaranteed a classic.

Now that the business school people make all the decisions and there's so much money being wasted on unnecessary positions in these companies, customers are left out to dry.

The entire GTA series exists between 1997 and 2013.

They have the next one apparently coming out this year but who cares at this point?

Games from old series should be viewed the same way Hollywood reboots are. It's just hoping a name will help with advertising.

I reckon it's also because there are simply so many games available now, and countless devices to play them on. My generation had one console or computer max, and a handful of games. Now young gamers have half a dozen devices at home, and thousands of free or easily accessible titles on whatever platform is currently in reach. They don't need to commit to a couple of titles, when an advert for the next one is a tap away.

I mentioned this before on another post, but I had 5 games on my PS1 as a kid. There are currently over 400 owned games available on the living room Xbox, there's a Switch in the house, the kids have iPhones, iPads and laptops, there's a Quest 2 gathering dust etc etc. That attachment we had to one or two of the few games we owned as kids has to be in part down to accessibility.

Remember the FFVII tech demo they showcased during the PS3 reveal. Good chance FF7 remake has been in development since then, but got shelved because FF15 development became a train wreck

That's because Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest aren't making kids games anymore.

They're remaking old games for nostalgia value for old gamers like me who played those games as a kid.

NGL I'm still waiting on the dragon warrior monsters remakes because I'd always been a bigger fan of those than any Pokémon game. I doubt it's coming any time soon, but a guy can hope.

That's the whole issue though. None of these studios are putting out games for modern kids. There just rehashing their old IPs and pretending they're new games. Kids dont want spruce up 1990's games. They want games for them.

I had all 5 3D GTA games come out before I was 17. The first rated M game I bought myself on launch day was GTA V. I'm almost 30 now.

Of course, GTA isn't necessarily a kid's game, but we all know who's playing it. Same deal there. There's a whole generation of people out there who don't even know we had 6 stars.

Kids will abandon most pre-existing shit to find something they can call their own.

I thought ff7re (the second part of the remake) sucked ass compared to ff7r (the first part.) The first one felt like a cool modernization of ff7 that still felt like the same game at its core, but the second one felt like complete focus-grouped buzzword filled nonsense. And the most annoying fucking element ive ever seen in a video game, birds that would constantly fly around your screen squawking and generally just being a nuisance until you went and completed their little meaningless side objective. Even the combat aspect felt like a bad monster hunter clone rather than a final fantasy game

I think I buy this worldwide, honestly. Case in point: one of the most popular video game series for young people recently has been Five Nights at Freddy's, and that series dropped its first four games in eleven months, and its next four games in four years. Minecraft remains one of the most popular games in the world, and it's releasing full free content drops every few months. Pokemon is still insanely popular among kids, and there hasn't been a year without a new Pokemon game release since 2015.

So, yeah. Hey, kids like novelty. Who knew?

Not sure why they'd think kids are the target audience for a remake of a 29 year old game.

Surely all the kids are playing the latest mobile slop pocket money sink?