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And honestly, when they spend the last two episodes shoehorning all of those loose ends in as if it were somehow the plan all along, but in the process they create plot holes.

For example, Season 2 of Arcane having Heimerdinger being suddenly onboard for the dangerous time travel experiments just so they can have Ekko ready in time for the finale, but they also place a bunch of random restrictions on his powers such that they cannot actually alter the past but they somehow can alter the flow of fights in the present. That whole season was terrible, tbh, none of it made any sense they just wanted to rapidly take the characters from where they were in season 1 to what they are ingame with little to no explanations of how or why.

That pretty much sums up Lost for me. I probably watched longer than I needed to land on that conclusion, but I wanted to quit on a good point to leave the series behind.

I don't remember exactly when I quit watching, but they managed to contact a ship and they were about to be rescued. My headcanon is that they made it home to live miserably ever after. I've since learned that the show got even worse.

It runs in parallel with a show getting too many characters to handle. It accelerates the Flanderization of characters who don't have a lot to do. Stranger Things had that problem as well, with a far too bloated main cast by the end.

Modern Marge sounds like Julie Kavner's been fronting a death metal band for the last 30 years. Let the poor woman rest.

I'm kind of ambiguous about the first point. I think you can expand on a tightly-written, concluded story... but not repeatedly. Furthermore, it requires you to - to some degree - shift the focus of the following stories. Continuing the meta-story is all and just fine, but the immediate story can't be about the same theme/issue/encounter indefinitely.

That's why young boys are usually voiced by women

I always liked on 'Married With Children' the executive forced child character that was wedged in was gone the next season and the only acknowledgement he ever existed was his photo on a milk jug.

I think with long running superhero comics it is more like, if a specific run has jumped the shark and gotten too stupid.

What is simultaneously good and bad about long running comics is that the continuity is so convoluted that the writers can reset it after an especially bad run, or they can go do stand alone stories; and readers can just ignore entire chunks of continuity they don't like.

On older broadcast shows, sometimes that was just a necessary evil to save the budget up for an expensive episode.

SG1 did clip shows really well.

One before, and one after, they jumped the shark.

Its possible to do it right.

Clipshows were a necessary evil on broadcast shows, especially scifi ones that cost a lot of money. Sometimes the show would have to do a clipshow or a noticeably cheap bottle episode to save up for an expensive episode. Also, in the pre-streaming era, people couldn't just watch all the episodes in order on demand so an occasional episode summarizing what was going on was actually useful.

I liked the clip shows from Community because they showed clips from "episodes" that weren't shown. They would just reference events that we didn't see happen and show a clip of it. Idk if that counts though.

A clipshow episode. These were used as cheap fillers when the shows still had 20+ episode seasons, if the production needed to save money this was the easiest way to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

The phrase was coined in 1985 by radio personality Jon Hein in response to a 1977 episode from the fifth season of the American sitcom "Happy Days", in which the character of "Fonzie"(Henry Winkler) jumps over a live shark while on water-skis.

Basically any time a show goes on too long and tries to introduce a stupid, attention-getting gimmick to try to stay relevant.

In the old sitcom "Happy Days," after far too many seasons, a new episode featured The Fonz, blue screen water skiing, a crappy looking shark prop, and the Fonz literally jumped over the shark.

Its from the show Happy Days (1977) where Fonzie jumps over a shark while water skiing. Its considered the point where the show took a dramatic turn down hill and the term is still used in that manner today.

It's from Happy Days when the Fonz literally jumped over a shark while water-skiing. Seen as a sign that the show is out of ideas and using crazy stunts or out-of-character actvities to shock some life (money) out of a dying franchise.

I find it worse when the sexual tension just keeps on going and goes nowhere. I really liked for example that they didn't do that in Kim Possible. They let Kim and Ron become a couple and made new stories about how they work out as a couple. It's been a while since I've watched it, but I remember appreciating that they could just be together instead of some will-they-won't-they bullshit.

Gods, I fucking hate time-travel/multiverse plots. They're so overdone.

They're basically used for when the writers are too cowardly to stick to decisions they want to make. Like killing key comic book characters. Nobody stays dead! Except for characters nobody cared too much about or has lost popularity. Spin-offs are different and can be used to tell stories of maybe what things would be like if X character isn't around anymore. That's fine.

But interjecting lazily implemented multi-verse, alternate universe, time traveling wrenches in on-going mainline stories? Fuck no.

B-but Scrubs' musical episode was great!