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remember when windows 10 was supposed to be the last os they ever made
Dude, they're still struggling with Windows 11 adoption because of the unreasonable requirements of a TPM 2.0 capable motherboard/CPU... and they are asking people to upgrade their CPUs again?
They only started seeing real growth in Windows 11 numbers as of January of this year. Windows 11 finally hit 73% last month while Windows 10 is down to 27%. Linux continues to gain marketshare, and there's no telling if the reason that Win 11 is finally gaining marketshare is from people dumping Windows entirely for other options. Mac and Chromebook shares have been growing as well! It took Microsoft four and a half years from release to break 50% Win 11 adoption and they want to release Win 12 on year five while forcing more upgrades when half the people who got in just upgraded?
This on top of trade wars, actual wars, and an AI arms race that is making buying PC parts obscenely overpriced... and they think people will fucking go for this?
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Even businesses won't want to upgrade this soon after many only just making upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements just recently.... because businesses are also facing the same increased costs due to the above issues!
god i hope they fuck this up
They're already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined.
...and frankly, I think they will. They've bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it's fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems.
vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not.
Right, but that's just it, they're basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year.
It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality.
As the article reasonably posits, it's way more likely that they'll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn't, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs.
Windows 7 was arguably the last OS they ever made.
This line of thought goes all the way back to NT, and even then IBM would have some comments.
DOS was the last one they built, and they made a really decent GUI for it before they switched to NT.
And they still haven't even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT.
I don't outright hate PowerShell but it's clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting.
If you’re not ready to switch to Linux:
Windows 10 Enterprise IoT is supported until 2032, works great, contains almost no bloat, and is free to download and activate.
You can configure just about anything else you want or need using Chris Titus’ Power Shell Windows Utility.
Rufus is simple and easy to use for extracting the ISO to a USB drive, and has built in options for setting up a local account and automatically disabling telemetry options during installation.
Microslop is rabidly, desperately, sprinting-on-fire towards a closed mobile-style system paradigm, frothing at the mouth and glowing radioactive iridescent green with envy at Apple and Google’s silicon to application device and software ecosystem control. They want you to purchase the edge tensor hardware they need to run and train the LLMs and machine learning algorithms that will be used to analyze everything you do on your computer, perform deep learning recognition on every photo, video, and file on your hard drive, and securely export that model to themselves, advertisers, and the government at a premium, paid for by our tax dollars.
They’re burning down their own company to do it, that’s how bad they want it.
Be warned though that some installers will yell at you for not having a "compatible version of Windows". Its rare, but some apps don't like the enterprise editions.
I'm banking on the world ending before then. Or I get an incurable cancer. Either way, fuck Microsoft.
So they're going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.
The timing of this couldn't be worse.
Pass the popcorn.
"Don't worry about that, you can just run it in the cloud for an eternal subscription" - Microslop.
Me: Using 11 year old PC. Originally rjnning Windows 7. Now running ZorinOS.
I don't particularly like linux, but.....
looks at Windows 10...11.....now 12....
Yeah, fuck that dumpster fire.
One of my 2 PCs already switched to linux because of mandatory TPM 2.0 for windows.
It's like they want us to leave their ecosystem. Requiring hardware changes in the middle of a major component crisis, one that they are in no small part responsible for, is certainly a choice.
However, newer processors with dedicated Neural Processing Units (NPUs) reduce strain on cloud servers and GPUs. As a result, PCWorld believes that CPUs, including Intel Core Ultra and AMD Ryzen AI chips that support 40 TOPS or more, will become mandatory
in other words, your pc will be doing ai shit for someone else's pc while you are idle
They couldn’t afford enough electricity to run it in-house so now they just run a mandated botnet to make you pay for it instead. If this isn’t a page out of a George Orwell novel, it should have been.
I'll take this as a sign to continue converting as many of my friends and family to whichever Linux distro fits them best.
They haven’t even gotten everyone into 11 yet. They are tossing out another OS? Seems, dare I say, sloppy.
How can anyone upgrade to a new PC when there is no Ram or hard disks available? This is a crazy time to try to push that.
I think this highlights Microsoft's inability to connect with its customers even more than the AI and shit.
They really just do not give a shit about the consumer, at all.
Its insane people put up with it on their own personal machines I get for work or whatever.
Making windows worse, AI, and forced CPU upgrades in this economy? There really is something for everyone to hate here.
Yes please!
I could use a few more modern tiny/mini/micros to make into useful Linux boxes.
Good luck with that shit.
I guess I'm no longer ever going to play a video game that runs on Windows. At some point game developers need to realize that Linux is the future of gaming if Windows keeps pulling this shit.
God it feels good to be Windows free by this point.
I'm beginning to think this is all a conspiracy to try to kill Windows because Microsoft doesn't want to support a desktop OS anymore.
This is an excuse to build out AI, wreck the consumer electronics market, and sell us all dumb terminals that connect to their AI cloud, so they can monitor and profile everything everyone does (including enterprise)
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
This is the Year of the Linux Desktop.
For all the people on here quick to mock others for being gullible enough to fall for AI-generated slop, this is embarrassing.
Well thats a stupid plan. Microsoft has lost their minds with Windows
Quite surprised that they are pushing that, seeing as one of the biggest obstacles for Windows 11 getting adopted was that a lot of the existing hardware didn't support the TPM requirements it put in place.
Doing it again so soon seems like a recipe to make people not want to use 12 at all. After all, Windows 11 works fine for them, why change so soon?
Calling it: win12 will have a thin client cloud hosted SaaS edition, for those who can't afford new ai-priced hardware.
Didn’t they jest release windows 11?
Didn't they once allude to windows 10 being the last windows because no more revisions were necessary
Good, keep killing your own OS and forcing people to alternatives.
I love how short sighted they are.
Linux.
If vibe-coding is wrecking Windows 11 and Office now ... just wait until Windows 12 sees the light of day! Ohhh boy, will that ever be some infinite-monkeys-on-typewriters-shite!
So I've got a wacky conspiracy theory about this and all the hardware shortages, ai datacenters, etc. The tech companies are trying to position themselves for "cloud only computing devices" being the only affordable option for most people. The you'll own nothing and like it model.
Microsoft can do whatever. I'm not coming back.
CPU upgrades? What CPU's? Are the CPU's in the Microcenter with us, Microsoft? Can you show us on the shelf where the mystical CPU's are?
Is the shortage a mirage? Our imagination?
