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I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.

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[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 1 points 5 hours ago

I used to believe that useful idiots were the exception, not the norm.

[–] Prikkeres@feddit.nl 4 points 23 hours ago

I thought America were the good guys…

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that people as a whole are inherently good

nope. nope nope nope. people are inherently selfish

half the population of the world seemingly needs to believe in fairy tales and a magic book to give them a moral code. people will, time and time again, do things for their own convenience or desires at a greater direct and immediate expense to somebody else, i.e. knocking somebody over to spill $10 out of their pockets and only steal $2 and run away.

fuck people. people will get respect when they earn respect. everybody else gets basic decency and nothing more, until they prove they're not an asshole. and the moment they prove that they are an asshole, they get treated like one.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Expecting the worst of people without input or influence and you will get the worst. It also doesn’t make you a great person to expect the worst of people. This isn’t caution. This is finding your new level.

no self respecting or good person will seek you out and leave you out there with the shit eaters. Cuz if you do nothing but overlook all the good people just to seek out shitheads to be your personal source of humanity, then what good are you to good people to be around?

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hanlon’s razor

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”

Evil does exist, and it wears the mask of imbecility

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Hanlon's Razor means that malice doesn't exist, just that it's more likely someone who wrongs you did so out of stupidity than actual malice.

My coworker drank my Dr. Pepper the other day, and when I asked who the hell did it he said he thought it was one he had brought in the other other day, we both love the Pep. Easy mistake to make, and he replaced it once he realized the mistake. Could he have said to himself "Fuck Arcane I'm going to drink his Dr. Pepper because he's a bitch?" Yes. Did he though? Probably not, it was probably just a simple mistake (stupidity.)

It's for shit like that, not like the holocaust or something.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

No yeah, you’re 100% correct. I just no longer think (however mistaken I was) that it’s universally applicable. I’ve always seen it used as a good and easy way to dismiss conspiracies

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used to make fun of vegans. Now I am one of them x)

[–] speedythe1st@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm really internally debating on going vegan again. I was from 12-14 but stopped because everyone in my life would sneak animal products into my food. Now that I'm 25 and out on my own it would be much easier.

Same! You just have such little control over your food as a child, especially in an unsupportive family. It wasn't until I moved out, was buying my own groceries, cooking my own food when I stumbled across a philosophy video going through the ethical arguments and I couldn't argue against of it. Went vegan as a "test" just to see if I could, and here I am ~15 years later. Never going back.

As with most things, social pressure is the biggest hurdle.

[–] sen@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Israel was justified in their (initial) retaliation for October 7.

Gone so far in the other direction that I now firmly believe Israel should be wiped off the fucking map. Decades of propaganda convinced me they weren't violent colonizers.

Fuck Israel. From the river to the sea.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I thought the same until I found out Isreal had killed Palestinian protesters. Then of course Gaza.

Fuck Isreal and all it's bullshit.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

oh yea i thought initially but shortly after found out that it was instigated by bibi for decades, in order to curry continued support for thier expansionism into the MIDDLE EAST. normally the media/people dont pay attention to israels action in gaza prior to oct 7, but when people found out they performed an "unprovoked" invasion plus the timing bennys convictions/ court cases going on is more than a coincidence.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That people are smart.

Most people are abject morons who still believe in Iron Age mythology.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Look, I'll give people the benefit on the doubt on religion. Most have been indoctrinated into it since youth after all.

But working as a software engineer in companies where I've also had to deal with customers, has left me... bewildered.

People seem to be unable to figure out absolutely anything basic on their own. Have you been wondering why the UI for almost everything has been simplified as if it was meant for toddlers? Because the average person, regardless of age, has less capacity for learning a new workflow than the average toddler.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Politics. We have always been a conservative family (to relate: "conservative" here is the equivalent of the US Democrats, not Republicans!). My grandfather was a party cofounder and lived next door to our countries first chancellor after the war.

But the sheer disregard for the law by the (conservative) chancellor who was in office when I grew up turned me to the political left.

[–] Vittorio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Mesa@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was raised in a somewhat homophobic household. One of my friend groups throughout high school was pretty densely LGBT, and so I grew. Exposure was all it really took.

I used to hate when Avatar: The Last Airbender aired. The episodes felt like they lasted forever, and I had no interest in anything that was going on. I finally finished watching it about a year ago, and it is one of my favorite shows to date.

[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

math is hard, annoying, useless

then found shaders, procedural art, freya holmer.

so math is hard, annoying, beautiful. well not exactly 180 then.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

math is hard, annoying, useless

I stopped my IT schooling because they started throwing some minor maths around, so I switched to game programming.

WHOO BOY, SO MUCH MATH! 😂

Nowdays I've self-taught Linear Algebra, Calculus, and some Category Theory (because Functional Programming - Monads), via Khan Academy and MIT videos on YT. Good shit.

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Eating meat. I used to vaguely mock vegans when I was in college (UK, so 16-18 years old). I used to say shit like "don't you just miss bacon though" and "the animals already dead, you might as well eat it now or it goes to waste". I've since done a 180 and I'm close to 10 years of veganism. Best decision I ever made for both my health and mental wellbeing.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

First of all, I liked America as a kid, that opinion changed fast. I was very fundamentalist Cristian conservative, but this strongly went against my values of compassion at some point, and I was the type to constantly question things. So at first I just lost faith due to how there was no evidence for Cristianity being based on anything real, since I would be putting my own and other's wellbeing for a belief in what is anectodal evidence, I told myself that I had proof, I would believe it, I got tricked, and started to believe in it again, then did a 180 AGAIN.

I would see trans people as degenerate freaks, but by some point, I knew this was irrational, and then a friend revealed they were trans, and I didn't show even a hint of the disgust, even though I was weirded out, I just went with the online trans support script on how I'm supposed to act, but I had like zero experience (or personality). So they kind of faded out of my life, sadly. Either way, they instantly Wolololo'd me just by existing. I no longer think ill of trans people, but ngl, thinking about their very happy expression as they stretch some latex shit they found, still weirds me out (not trans related).

I as far as recently, utterly hated furries, and would see them as groomers. Again, having furry friends helped, but I was never 100% comfortable for a long time, until I meet a certain (ironically no longer furry) person. No, I did not do a 180, I was guarded and would sometimes be rude and dismissive. I disliked a game for being furry, but I basically grew into it thanks to OpenMindedness™ that again, developed from some sort of philosophy.

(Note: this is getting to dense to phrase properly, so I will try to make it more TL;DR).

I was asexual for more than one reason, I was questioning why I was like that, but never did anything about it, until ironically a roleplay bot did something inappropriate that I punished it for, but it made me think, and I knew I was cutting myself out of a very human experience for dumb reasons, went very freakish on Reddit and Lemmy NSFW for a while, then due to both constraints, and my well...moral disgust with humans, I did a 180 AGAIN, and I'm now at least behaving like an asexual, my only exception is a friend who I don't directly have an NSFW relation with, but I talk NSFW, and I'm more than willing to hear him out on anything they need (so long as it's not myself).

A few other things: I used to be very bootstraps, which ruined me. I do believe help is important (but no longer have the trust for it). For a long time, I valued forgiving and accepting people, and I put up with a lot. This unfortunately, has come to an end as well, and I am VERY wrathful now, want to smell burnt flesh level of wrathful, cut off friends suddenly level of wrathful, cut myself from things I need to hurt others level of wrathful. It took a long time of what amounts of being tortured, and massive injustice for me to become like that, and it serves a purpose, it is not a character flaw. There are many things I forgot and don't think about here that are an extreme departure of my previous beliefs, and I am nothing like my old self, and my old self would probably want to burn my new self at a stake.

That I was a straight Christian.

Freeing myself from those chackles are probably the biggest pivots in my life.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religion and politics.


Was raised Christian (Protestant; not sure which subchapter, but I've sung Psalms in whole-notes, rhythm, organ or drum and guitar - it didn't matter much), but turned secular/atheist around the time The New Atheists (Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris - the four horsemen, lmao) went around. Part was several youtube videos, part The Selfish Gene audiobook.

Nowadays, I still consider myself atheist, though I call myself heathen after the pre-Christian religion(s?) we used to have in the Netherlands (which is basically Norse mythology, but we call Odin Wodan, and Thor Donar. We also have a few extra figures like Frau Holle, some local legends, etc. I also wear two rings with the Elder Futhark alphabet, and a chain with Thor's Hammer.

I just think Germanic Myths and Legends are just neat.


Regarding politics: I used to regard myself as Liberal, but the more I learn about Liberalism (starting at John Locke, and ending with John Rawls) the less I like it. It feels like it's individualism and egoism to an extreme, and I think it will be damaging to humanity at large in the long term.

What would replace it? I'm not sure yet. I do feel we should probably try to get families living closer to each other, to ensure they can better support each other - nowadays a family can easily live all over just fine, which just means they'll grow apart. Yes, yes, not every family can do that, because some families are assholes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Our capitalistic system is breaking the family tribe apart, and I think that's bad for everyone involved.

Also, forced paternity tests. If men get the burden of fatherhood legally shoved onto them, then they should get legal evidence the child is theirs. I think cuckery (raising another's child without knowing - not the sexual act) is a deeply immoral move, a deep and traitorous move, and if women use the legal framework to force men to pay for support, then they should be OK with us using the exact same framework to support ourselves, right? That would only be fair, right?

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

China bad America less bad.

I think China is no worse than america now. I don't put effort into buying american products anymore and will happily buy Chinese goods.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used to be a conservative who shot guns weekly and reloaded ammo. I was deep into the group for years.

The last 6 years I've been democratic, gone to protests and do my best to educate others about the dangers of being on the right.

Problem is, on social media, everyone assumes your lying or a bot, so I can't help convert anyone over to the brighter side.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Conservatism. Used to be a conservative around being 18-20. Then I left it after I saw what giving 2/3rd of the seats to Orbán did in my country. Now I'm not only an anti-fascist, but I also actively oppose conservatism.

When we thought fascism would never come back, we had to learn fascism was just conservatism at its logical extremes.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

idolizing celebs, prof athletes, actors, singers...etc.

I turned 13 and learned what they basically do and how much they earn compared to doctors and teachers.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Israel.

I thought it was complicated but they had a right to the land because of the holocaust, that countries around them should learn to get along with Israel

Now I know founding Israel was a mistake. Explicitly saying it's a Jewish state will inevitably lead to other groups being suppressed, i.e. Apartheid if not outright genocide. And they are not hated in the region because Muslims and Jews cannot get along, but because Israel was built entirely on stolen land, and they are still in the process of stealing more and genocide those who stand in their way

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was very, very anti-gun until I was about 36... now I build them.

When my mom was pregnant with me in 1983, she got mugged at gunpoint in Baltimore and the gun was actually pointed at me while I was in the womb.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would watch the movie about this where the protagonist eventually tracks down his mother's assailant. Park Chan-wook can writr and direct it and it will be called Youngman.

That sounds like a horrible experience for her, though. What made you change your stance on guns?

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Politics.

We have emboldened Nazis that have arsenals in their homes. Fascism hasn’t ever ended by voting it out.

If shit goes down, I want to be more proficient than the Nazis so that they can be my loot crate.

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