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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Whoever at micron that said this is obviously some novel kind of idiot.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Old kinda idiot. Marketing Dept pumping stock with "white paper".

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

With the current level of tech in a car, you're already likely pushing 300GB in total. There's dozens of high-compute ECUs doing all sorts of things, running some *nix OS and using anywhere from a couple GB to well.. way more.

to reach full driverless capability, those will need to become more powerful, the software will require more memory, and the number of compute modules will likely increase as well for sensors and other stuff.

300GB IMO is probably a conservative estimate.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to sound angry at you, but I'm told I come off that way. So please let me start this with an advanced apology.

We have the esp32 in very common circulation. We have seen what is required to keep a thing fucking airborne, and it is so beyond what I thought was possible twenty years ago. And they did it with <1 gig.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No worries, nothing grouchy sounding there :)

My statement is sourced by me working in R&D in the automotive industry on these modules.. an ESP32 does not come close to the amount of computing resources needed to move and process the absolute boat load of information required to make decisions for autonomous driving.

Flying around doesn't need the same level of object detection, path-finding, decision making and so on that a vehicle that is capable of killing anyone in or around it needs. And on top, it has to be able to do that at highway speeds, without ever making a mistake - because of the killing everyone in or around it part.

Further, it needs to deal with all the random stuff all those people are doing around it all the time.. again, without ever making a mistake.

So it needs to be able to see something, identify if it's something it needs to be concerned about, figure out if it might be doing something that needs to be addressed, make a plan, then execute it... in like a few milliseconds. with a virtually unlimited number of potential obstacles, while obeying traffic laws, and still get the occupant to their destination.

Without killing anyone.

And that's just the ADAS subsystem.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I guess I didn't take into account that airborne is easier considering encountering randomly moving objects.

But 300gigs is a bad number on at least 2 different levels.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

300? Come on. We all know it comes in powers of 2.

AI write that?

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Shovel vendor forecasts massive uptick in hole digging.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

L0 ADAS for life, baby!

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Each will also need a portable nuclear reactor and a swimming pool filled with the blood of innocents and ice cubes made out of children's tears, for cooling purposes.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus. People are still talking about self-driving cars?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This is an idea that should be shelved for a good 20-30 years, honestly.

We'd need global collaboration to come up with a universal standard applied to all cars (regardless of price). If it can't be a standard, then it's a bullshit idea. Competing standards and companies simply means abandoned tech everywhere and everything, thinking their tech is best, nothing works together, issues across the board, and high cost to customers.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We should just build walkable cities. It doesn’t even require any new knowledge, we can start right now and there are even many places in the US, the shittest of us all, where there’s honestly nothing really stopping us.

Self-driving cars are dumb because they are a tonne of work to ultimately solve zero problems when we could do basically nothing special and improve everyone’s lives within our lifetimes.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Cities can be walkable and have self driving cars. We sure can have less cars, but it sure sounds better than letting everyone drive. Also, some people can't walk & need assistance moving.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

People should just drive the car.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Are you aware of just how bad people are at that?

Waymo robotaxis are already better drivers than humans, by a lot.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I imagine pople stealing RAM from cars.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No way they would make it upgradable or user serviceable lol

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

They just get really fast and accurate with soldering irons. Until later ones come along absolutely surgical with a flame thrower.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

How? It’s soldered on.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They're almost certainly going to be soldered chips instead of traditional ram sticks.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Soldered, and often in hard to get to places in the vehicle. it'd be easier and more lucrative to strip the wiring for the copper.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Like catalytic converters?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We went to the moon with Kbs and now cars need Gbs?

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 16 hours ago

There is a lot less traffic/pedestrians in space.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago

They think that makes them sound smart and important.

It actually makes them sound incompetent.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm reading that headline as: Major electronics company explains why self driving cars and home robots will be unaffordable.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

Only because of current RAM prices and artificial scarcity keeping those prices high.

300GB of RAM shouldn't be that expensive. I have 1/3 of that in my server (bought years ago). If it wasn't for the AI bullshit, 300GB would be fairly reasonable to buy in a couple of years time.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"You know that thing we sell? Buy a shitload of it."

More like, you know that thing we used to sell and now we don't because we bet everything on ai datacenters? Well now we bet on robots because we raised the price so high nobody will afford to buy that thing we used to sell and we can't go back to that price because the line must go up!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No no no. See, this is why AI is so fucked up. It doesn't matter if it's human or driverless. Cars aren't supposed to RAM anything!!!

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 26 points 1 day ago

They should dodge not ram.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Obviously a company that makes RAM will say RAM is important, what else would we expect?

I'd love to know what Waymo vehicles have though.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

LIDAR. They have lidar.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They saw Jensen say engineers should be burning tokens to keep warm and thought "fuck it, let's do this".

[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

This sounds reasonable

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 1 day ago

when the loot chests move around the map

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

I definitely misread Micron as Macron, and was confused why the French president was chiming in on this conversation

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Of course they do. They are extremely impartial on the matter and I trust their judgment.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

If I were the boss of a RAM company, would I say then that the world needs more rubber tires, or would I say the world needs more RAM?

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 12 points 1 day ago

I'm sure Micron aren't bias at all...