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"Still not over the American woman who was super surprised to see so many men walking around with strollers and generally looking after their children alone during her travels through the Nordic countries."

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 113 points 1 week ago (47 children)

Do American men not look after their kids?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Depends where on the political spectrum they are.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the real answer. The only men I know who act like it isn’t part of their job to be a dad are also super “Christian” and conservative.

In one instance I know of the wife has a college degree but the husband doesn’t. They are quite impoverished because he works and she doesn’t because “it isn’t a woman’s place to earn more than a man”. I’m not fucking kidding or editorializing.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

"Yes, my self-image is worth $80,000 a year, why do you ask?"

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[–] fuzz00713@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The number of fathers that gave me shit for taking care of my kids is rediculous. We had our kids 15 months apart and I would routinely have both of them in a public restroom for changing. The pure vitriol directed at me for doing the womens job was immense beyond measure.
On the flip side, when I would take them to the park to play, I would be acosted by nearly every mother there. There were no fathers, just mothers that would have to comment that it was great to see a father participate. I also got a lot of phone numbers that I got very embarrased about and my wife found hilarious.

TLDR:. Most american fathers do not put in much effort unless its sports related.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My kids dad (I am not bio-mom) told me straight up he only wants adult children. I pointed out to him kids ARE adults now and he has no relationship with them due to that attitude. So many fathers want to phone it in then are shocked when they have no meaningful relationship with their kids.

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

America is just like every other highly patriarchal society: No

Some men are wonderful dads and incredibly involved but culturally speaking American men still very much buy into the concept of “woman’s work” and included in that is women raising his kids for him

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

It doesn't help that men looking after thier own kids is seen as "babysitting" or even worse a predator.

There's plenty of YouTube reviews of men taking thier kids to the park and watching them play while being a parent. Then female parents call the damn cops on the clear dad being a dad.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

so my doofus brother's wife grew up one of those "i refuse to be one of those women who does 'women's work'" and just wants to stay home playing video games. and my doofus brother, well, he's a doofus so neither of them gets their house cleaned. or their food cooked properly. or their clothes cleaned. or any of that shit. it's embarrassing

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

am a dad, been told I'm 'babysitting' my kids a few times.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My wife has warned her friends "Never refer to my husband looking after his kids as "babysitting" unless you want a snarky, probably very rude response."

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not in my experience. Men behave as if their contribution is either working a job to earn money for the family and/or drinking/physical violence.

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

Usually both, at least in my region.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I can only speak from personal experience. my father

  • never changed my diaper
  • beat or screamed at me more than we ever "played ball" or "had fun"
  • worked me like a dog
  • only gave me approval two weeks before he died
  • said he "loved me" five times in my entire life before he died
  • never once cared for me while I was sick

as a father myself I

  • change diapers when I need to
  • never beat my kids
  • screamed at them only when they were caught doing something incredibly stupid and dangerous
  • let them play and pay them for their work
  • play games or watch them play outside
  • try to support them as best I can with positivity
  • tell them I love them every single day and night
  • have stayed up for days caring for them while they were sick

I'm not looking for a medal, or a thank you. All I'm looking for is a bit of appreciation when they grow up and look back when they become parents.

I want to break the cycle of shitty father figures, that's all.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In addition to broadly prevalent 'traditional' norms promoted and espoused by men in many, many parts of the US, that assert that caring for a child is innately feminine...

Tons of American women also actively promote patriarchy, they'd call these guys gay and not real men, for taking care of their kids, for being stay at home dads.

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[–] koella@lemmy.zip 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A friend of a friend of mine visited Stockholm from the US. She loved it, but was really puzzled by "all the gay nannies" until she was told they were the fathers.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (12 children)

So what do American fathers do on mandatory parental leave, just sit at home?

Oh, wait, there is no mandatory parental leave for fathers in the US, is there?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Lol, federally we don't have paid parental leave for mothers either. If there are 50+ employees both parents can take up to 12 weeks unpaid, and states may force paid leave to be offered.

And yeah, I'm not a parent, but I've noticed that over the years there's been more and more of a move towards fathers taking part in the nurturing parenting (as opposed to mainly being involved via providing, instruction, and discipline)

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

really puzzled by "all the gay nannies"

Damn, that’s some eastern europe type phrasing

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait what's with the knives? That baby is holding one, his dad is giving one to the other baby... I don't get this reference I'm a brute sorry

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SATW always portrays Finland with a knife, so it’s more of an inside joke and not related to this specific comic strip.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (11 children)

All scandinavians has those (fjällkniv, morakniv,...) but the finnish are portrayed, in Scandinavia, as the most isolated/laconic people,the most "manly" ones, hence the knife. Swedes were portrayed as the gayest in the nineties at least (very "woke"), and so on. It's just cultural stereotypes.

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[–] Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 week ago (6 children)

As a Finn I am deeply insulted by yet strongly approve of the knife thing.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago

Here in the UK its getting more and more common, but we still have to put up with strangers asking "are you babysitting today?".

Like no mate I'm being a parent.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

... why are the men drawn normally, but the women like that

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Every character is a stereotype of a country.

And those are just the female stereotypes of those countries.

Sweden is the home of the women brought home by the vikings. Big breasted beautiful blondes.

The US is the home of the women who go tanning and get plastic surgery.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 1 week ago

The artist of these comics is a woman as well.

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[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Oh honey, I'm so sorry

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For reference, here are the other countries:

England:

France:

Japan:

Brazil:

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[–] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a single dad in the Bible belt of PA, I feel this. I always got weird looks. I just love being a Dad.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a single dad, but my wife was gone for a year when our daughter was two. I used to watch moms struggling with kids in the grocery store and no one batted an eye (GA, USA). I'd do grocery shopping with mine in the cart and keep her amused while shopping and checking out and on more than one occasion for compliments about what a great dad I was.

I love my girls and spend as much time with them as I can and do things with them all the time. Still, my wife gets nothing and I occasionally still get pats on the back and compliments on doing basic dad stuff from both men and women.

Always struck me as such a weird thing. Sometimes moms really need more recognition too, I think.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

there's two men who walk a baby down my street every nice day.

they must be really good friends or roommates to be so close all the time.

it's nice to see to men have such a strong unshakable bond together.

If I didn't know any better I'd swear they were married or something.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is Finnish dad distributing knives to the kids?

[–] la93@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago

The kids make their own knives in school, but not as babies. They ski as babies.

[–] Someplaceunknown@leminal.space 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

why are they giving the babies knifes???

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's a Finnish baby, knives are mandatory.

Jokes aside, I'm a Swedish speaking Finn who happened to move to Sweden for the last year of school and my teacher made a point of reminding me it's not okay to wear a knife to school.

She made quite the face when my mother told her we stopped that particular tradition about a century ago.

But still, it's something of a national joke, lol.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

There's a joke here in Sweden that goes like: (With finish accent) "Boys! Stop fighting with knives! We gave you chainsaws for Christmas!"

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I'm from the US and I did the stroller thing often. My kids are out of strollers now, but when I go run I see dads often enough out pushing one or two kids. I take my kids to the park a lot and say hey to the other moms and dads I know. I volunteer for things at my kids school, in their classes. One time it was me and two other dads, although that does seem to lean more heavily toward moms. I think moms are still better at other peoples' kids, at least I know that's not a strength of mine.

I think my generation of parents, right now, is equal responsibility. I have had to correct some extended family members, when my family shows up to a gathering and we have food, they automatically assumey wife made it, and I'll dissuade them of that notion. But that's coming from a generation of people where that's how it was, and I take no offense, and it also doesn't happen anymore.

I would also not take offense to someone saying "Look at you doing dad stuff," because hey, it's not always easy, and encouragement is ... encouraging.

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