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Microsoft Raises Prices for All Surface PCs, Making Them More Expensive Than Equivalent Macs
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this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2026
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You know, Windows 2000 was pretty fucking rock solid. It was a beast. NT kernel but none of the fisher price theming of XP (yeah I know, you could turn that off). XP was pretty good too, tbh.
But hoooooo boy has it been a slow, agonizing shark jump from there.
Even ‘95 was pretty ok
95b… A and C were pretty bad. Different dev team.
98 SE wasn’t bad either.
And XPSP2 Lite is still really nice; community project that stripped out all the stuff not explicitly “operating system” so you could choose on your own what software to run on top of it.
I still run Lite in a VM on my M-series Mac. It runs all Windows software that isn’t locked down to Win10+ DRM.
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Did 7 have some hidden clause or something that's not apparent to a user without forensic tools? I remember that revision being pretty swell. (Especially the enterprise branches)
The Home editions included hardware restrictions (a maximum of either 8 or 16 GB RAM depending on which of the two versions you got, and you couldn't change language in any of the commercially available versions. While I can't remember anything wrong with it, I was also like 10 when I used it and I highly suspect everyone's memories of it are being biased by just how absolute dogshit 8 was on release.
Ultimate let you change languages, but cost more than Pro
Right, that edition is listed after enterprise on Wikipedia so my eyes just completely bounced over the fact it could be upgraded to from Pro.
Everyother version of windows has been good, the others are shit...
Gotta admit the pattern has held true
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Rose-tinted glasses. Anyone going back to Windows XP would likely be shocked at how broken and unintuitive it could be at times.
7 was best. Everything after that has been unusable garbage.
All of the price for none of the benefits lmao
I used to swear I'd never buy Mac because their ecosystem is so closed off.
And vouched for MS because yea it's a bit more rough around the edges but you have a lot more freedom and it's a fair amount cheaper.
Neithe of those are true anymore, MS is just as locked down and seems to cost more for the same hardware performance.
Why would anyone buy Microsoft laptops anymore? What does it have that Mac isn't better in?
(other than gaming)
To put Linux on them, but now you have Linux laptops so,🤷🏼♀️
No I think that’s why you buy a 5 year old laptop on the used market.
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Can't fix or upgrade Macs whatsoever as a layman. That alone guarantees I'll never purchase one.
I was a bit more interested when Asahi Linux became a thing, but that doesn't fix Apple's addiction to planned obsolescence.
(Used windows laptops can just have linux installed on them for a fraction of the price as well.)
I also prefer just running Linux now.
But most people are fine just buying a mac, they do tend to last really really long
Didn't Louis Rossmann make his career off showcasing all of the "amazing engineering choices" made throughout the Macbook and iPhone line?
Well if you’re near the purchasing decision for m365 MSFT is a lot better at lying to you, coercing you, weaponizing lock in, and extracting revenue.
Just the other day I had a guy tell me you could get a PC equivalent to the base M4 mini for $300 after I told him I got one for $650 (both prices CAD)
buying stolen stuff is possible, but I'm sure they were just bullshitting you because apple bad
Equivalent in size, yes. Performance, no. Just look up small form factor PC on Amazon. For just web browsing and streaming, you can do alright for $300.
Just don’t expect it to run Cyberpunk 2077.
Which the M4 mini base model can.
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I got insanely lucky and picked up a bunch of Lenovo tinys for under 100USD each. I5/16GB DDR4/256GB NVMe. They’re incredible. I would have gotten more if they have more!
An m4 mini still performs better, and these are used business machines. But they test out great! They perform amazingly with Linux and very well with Windows 10 LTSC IoT.
That’s pretty sick though. All my other machines run Linux, including my 2018 mini as of the day after I got the M4 :)
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fedora kde on a thinkpad yoga l380 works too
M'distro tips
Game over man
oof the author misspelt Microslop
The 12" Surface pro doesn't even come with a power supply. Even Apple still includes one with the iPad.
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