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[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 89 points 2 days ago (13 children)

It's always funny to me to read a history of something I lived through written by someone who didn't. I don't think anyone who was in the industry at the time would say the Zip drive dominated the 1990s.

To set the scene, most people in the 90s didn't own a computer at all and the majority of people who did own a computer never owned a zip drive. While Zip was the most successful of the Superfloppies, it was never ubiquitous. By the sales numbers, 10-15% of computer owners bought zip drives. Compare to a floppy or CDROM which is close to 100%.

The reason it vanished quickly was simple: Zip was never that good and CDRW was much better. As soon as the prices dropped for CDRW, Zip was a goner.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is absolutely my experience. I was lucky enough to have a home desktop and needed to transport stuff to my university, floppy drives were the main method but so painful. Zip drives were better, but still sucked and frequently failed.

I clearly remember swapping the zip drive for a cdrw one. Far more reliable and 6x the space.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

I think one computer at school had a zip drive. I never saw another one all my life, compared to ubiquitous floppies and cd's

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

Totally accurate. I had a zip drive, and barely used it. It was quickly surpassed by several other storage mediums that were bigger and cheaper.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In college I knew exactly one person with a zip drive.

[–] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah but do you know anyone with a jazz drive? Yeah. Thought so.

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

I had one in college, a parallel port one. I’d bring it to college to download stuff on the fast internet connection there.

Unfortunately it only worked on the Windows machines so you had to use one of the crappy PCs instead of the much nicer Sun SparcStstions

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Yep. I worked in the tech industry during that time and was around a LOT of computers in different business settings. I can count on one hand the number of zip drives I encountered.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Exactly. for me they were an expensive curiosity. 100 or even 20 bucks back then wasn’t exactly chump change. If you did have a computer, it was much cheaper to just use a burner or even a pile of floppies which were dirt cheap and reliable. I only really saw them somewhat frequently at university. When i could afford them, they felt well-made but performance was terrible and the disks and devices failed after only a few months… even the stupid external burner. By then the competition was eating their lunch anyway.

[–] hesh@quokk.au 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These were my exact thoughts. I knew one guy with a zip drive.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I guess I was that guy. My first Zip drive had a Centronics interface (you younguns won't understand). I spent months trying to get it to work with passthrough behind the printer and the scanner. Ended up buying a Centronics card with two additional ports. After only a few hours of mucking about with interrupts it sort of worked. Next I got an internal one with an ISA interface. Felt very high tech. Shortly after I got my first CD-RW drive and all that shit was completely obsolete.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Writeable CDs were great when you had a lot of data to archive (digital camera photos etc) but they had drawbacks too. Burnt CDs were generally not readable on other computers until they were 'finalised' and so they were pretty useless for things like taking files to-and-from school where you need to constantly edit and delete and change.

Fortunately, Word documents were pretty small, and so I personally managed to survive with floppy disks until I finally could get a USB flash drive. For CDs I only ever really burnt fully finalised CD-Rs which I never intended to 're' write - because the rewritable aspect was too much hassle and incompatibility.

And so my feeling is very much that Zip and CD aren't technologies I would have considered equivalent.

Zip didn't catch on in the mainstream market but as basically a bigger floppy it did catch on in others and one was music production. Lots of equipment from that period had zip drives, because music files were that perfect combination of needing to edit and write and move around between different machines, while also being much bigger than text documents and too big for floppy.

If flash drives hadn't started to appear on the scene I think eventually one of the 'super floppies' (or some other equivalent rewriteable technology) would have had to emerge, because CDs really couldn't do the same job as a floppy.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I needed a zip disk for graphic design unit I took at Uni. All I remember was it being slow and unreliable.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

The click of death

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Game Boy Color: JP: October 21, 1998
WonderSwan: JP: March 4, 1999
Game Boy Advance: JP: March 21, 2001
Modern video games historians: what ever happened to the WonderSwan, guess we'll never know

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Its funny to me to see someone who sees such a different perspective of the 90's. My family was one of the poorest of the area. My dad was a janitor. We had one of the many generic clone pcs back in the late 80's. Had to park the hard drive and everything. My friend from a wealthier family was never without one just for him. It was not a family computer. I built my first sometime around 98. We both used zip or zip like devices. zip was a bit to expensive but many less techy folk used them. I went gaga over a competitor that had huge disks relative to them but I can't for the life of me remember the name. Certainly students in the lab I worked in were still using them well into the early aughts. Its really flash drives that killed them. I should look through my old box of stuff and I kinda wonder if I may have one sitting in there. Burning a disc was just not as convenient as saving a file.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I had a teacher who had one and I thought it'd be cool to not need as many floppies. But that's the only time I was ever near one, and I don't think I ever held one in my hands. Then I forgot because better stuff came along 😛

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

The only reason I had zip drives was because I took a CAD class at the local community college which required them for saving models on the lab machines. I think we were one of the last classes to use the zip drives before flash storage started becoming ubiquitous.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

While Zip was the most successful of the Superfloppies, it was never ubiquitous.

...

The reason it vanished quickly was simple: Zip was never that good and CDRW was much better. As soon as the prices dropped for CDRW, Zip was a goner.

They all made the same mistake: trying to extract monopoly rents instead of becoming an open standard. Same reason why most of Sony's bullshit over the years (betamax, minidisc, memory stick, etc.) failed, regardless of whether it was technologically "good" or not.

There could have been room in the market for a standardized superfloppy, but the companies making them relegated themselves to be niche by their greed well before CDRW finished them off.

(I owned a zip drive as a teenage computer nerd, BTW. Pretty sure I still have it in a box somewhere.)

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They vanished like everything in life that people had to suffer because there was no other choice: as soon as something better appeared, everybody ditched the hateful thing.

Then newer generations who didn't actually have to use the shit to do actual work revive it and called it vintage. Not for me: ZIP and JAZ drives are dead and they should stay dead. Good riddance.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A couple years ago on reddit I saw a post lamenting the death of....the minidisc.

Old portable storage tech sucked. Good riddance is right

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Except for music. It is ok to mourn the loss of universal physical media for music.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if it's vinyl or CD. The only thing in the pro column for any tape format is the kachunk of the buttons

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Not true. Cassettes were super fun to record with, and you can do lots of fun analog production tricks with them.

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Minidisc was insanely good technology; the problem was that it was crazy expensive proprietary tech. So almost no one used it, and never really took off.

But I loved mine.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it is cool but my point is that old storage tech offers no benefits to what we have now. It's not a bad thing when technology is superceded with zero compromise

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It offered amazing benefits 30 years ago though. And the current tech you enjoy today was made possible thanks to what was developed years ago.

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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's funny because within the past year or so people are looking at Zip Drives like it was the second coming of storage, like this novelty "vintage" tech. but as someone who lived through that age and owned at least 3 or 4 drives myself they sucked. They broke constantly. Like I said I went through at least 3 of them. Once CD-R/RW drives became affordable there was no looking back. and then DVD-R drives were just so much better.

If at the time you were dependent on them for storage or backups it was a crap shoot. Sure you could backup your stuff but would you eventually be able to retrieve said backups if your drive went to hell? was it even worth it at that point? no.

Zip drives weren't that common in the 90's. Your typical Windows 95 or 98 PC had a 1.44MB 3.5 inch floppy drive, a CD-ROM drive or two, maybe a 5 1/4" floppy drive. A Zip drive was pretty much always a separate purchase, you could never count on a random PC somewhere having one, and most people didn't have much of a use for one.

A standard floppy would hold game saves, text documents, the occasional jpg or whatever just fine. Software was distributed on CD-ROM, the whole multimedia revolution thing. People started getting used to the My Documents folder and storing files on the machine's local hard drive, so the Zip was limited to people who needed to personally archive large files. CD-R and CD-RW started getting popular, they could hold even more files, plus you could make audio discs, so more normies wanted them.

Didn't really help that Iomega kept coming out with competitors to Zip, like their Jaz hard drive cartridge system, Ditto tapes and Clik disks.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

I had a tower PC around 2000 with a zip drive. I had 1 zip disk, which I seem to recall having cost $35 for 100mb of storage. I didn't know anyone else with a zip drive, nor were there other computers on campus with a zip drive. It was slow as fuck and seemed to get stuck in the drive randomly.

[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because click click click click click click dead drive

[–] Poop@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

The click of death problem when these first came out did them in. They got off to a hobble with so much bad press about it nobody wanted to rely on them. Also, they were not cheap.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

burning disks and then flash drives.

[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still have a dozen or Zip disks from high school and university. Perhaps even a drive around, somewhere, just in case I want to look at some really old term papers! I don't miss them; the notorious click of death got me one too many times.

[–] Deebster 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah yes, the click of death. Given that, this but in the article made me laugh:

There was also the PocketZip format, initially called Clik!

I guess Iomega quickly changed the name on that one.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because they sucked. They hit a very brief moment of being bigger than floppies and not as expensive as another hard disk, but they broke all the time, lost data, were expensive, and CD burning came along and got cheap real fast.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CDRW was never as well supported by the filesystem though. I think it was well into the 2000s before windows had a native "burn to disk" option in the filesystem browser. Before that you needed to fuss with third party software and select the correct disk type and drive speed and all that.

[–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about all that stuff you had to set up right to burn a cd and not turn it into a coaster. And the different configuration you would have to set up whether you wanted it to play like a music CD to go in the car or just files in mp3 format, which some car stereos would read correctly. I would never know how to do something like that now.

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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I always had wanted a zip drive. Never could afford it. Went straight to cdrw.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was growing up in the 90s. Zip drives definitely did not dominate; they were a failure. My dad actually did use zip drive personally at home so I'm familiar with them, but I never saw them in school, and they were not used commonly by most people. Most people never seem to have ever heard of them.

When I grew up 3.5inch floppy disks were the standard from the late 80s into the 90s. In the mid 90s files were getting bigger so yes there was a need for more storage than 1.44mb on an 3.5inch floppy disk for some people. But most Word documents would still fit on a floppy disk, and of course email was a thing (albeit the internet was slow and transfers could take ages). You could also Zip a file (not Zip Drive but the Zip file format) and split it into 1.44mb chunks to use multiple floppies.

So I remember when Iomega's Zip Drives came out. They did look good but the problem was they were just too expensive - both the disks and the readers - any they just weren't in the vast majority of computers so weren't useful, so they never took off. Whats the point of putting a file on a Zip Disk if the computer at the other end doesn't have a drive to take it? I'm sure some business switched to them but they never really became truly mainstream.

Instead CD was definitely the dominant format. Almost all new computers in the 90s (certainly mid to late 90s anyway) had a built in CD drive. And then CD-R (CD write once) drives came along. You either made do with floppys & the internet, or you had a CD-R drive if you wanted to transfer big files. CD could be slow to write but was always quick to read; and Zip Drives were just always slow. And of course music was the big thing for young people - so you'd rip your favourite songs and burn them onto a CD and could play it anywhere - your walkman, your Hifi, your mates car (if they were lucky enough to have a CD player). So CD-R drives just became essential, and especially anyone with any tech interest. If you were into games you might also rip your favourite games and burn those onto a CD too. Video just wasn't really a thing until 1998 when DivX came along and that took a little while to take off, but again CD was the star.

I remember actually my 6th Form College in the early 2000s DID buy computers with in-built Zip Drives, but by then it was too late - the internet was already fast enough & USB sticks had appeared. Even my dad wasn't using them any-more and he'd been an early adopter.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cd burners dropping massively in price is what did it.

100mb iomega vs 700mb cd? No contest.

At the turn of the century a mac cd burner cost $300 and was scsi (i know, i bought my dad one). Five years later you could score one for $40. Ten years later and it did dvds too. Five years after that it did both and read bluray

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Never actually had one of these or knew anyone who did. I did do work experience recording business applications onto tape to send in the post though.

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For me zip was mainly two things:

  • I put all my things on it that I wanted to use on a shared computer. At the time that included downloads from the internet which I didn’t have access to directly from my own computer.
  • Hot fix for running out of hard disk. Zip was not far off from the sizes hard disks were in the early-mid 90ies. 100 MB of extra room was big and attaching another hard disk wasn’t necessarily an option.

I’m not sure about them “dominating” though. Virtually none of my friends had one.

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I was an early adopter of a cd burner but I still found Zip drives to be way better for casual storage. CDrs were great for audio cds or video cds, but cd-rws were slow and painful. Zips were great for quick storage where you didn’t have to think about filling up a cd permanently.

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why were they called zip drives to begin with? Was it related to the compression format, or just a marketing thing?

[–] Epp@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

I believe it was a reference to the speed of writing, compared to the alternative of floppies.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

I remember some format differences that made it difficult too. I think when the higher capacity versions hit, they weren't backwards compatible and cd burning was becoming a thing. When people saw virtually any cd worked in any drive, it was an instant buy.

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