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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 6 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm... Very confused. Why does this guy think he can affect something about the Hagia Sophia in Turkey?

[–] bananabread@lemmy.zip 1 points 25 minutes ago

Maybe they think they should bomb it

[–] dizzle18@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

I was very young the one time I visited South Carolina with my parents, so my memory is admittedly a bit hazy - this place is in Charleston, right?

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 66 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

This is literally the first time I've ever heard of anyone from the US actually giving a shit about the Hagia Sophia.

Like it honestly took me a few seconds to fully realize they're talking about the landmark in Turkey.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 48 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

It's nobody's business but the Turks'.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because it's in Istanbul, not Constantinople.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But what if I have a date in Constantinople?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

She'll be waiting in Istanbul.

[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

And my axe!

[–] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 hours ago

And the Etruscan’ts.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Something tells me Mark Lynch doesn't agree that it can't go back to Constantinople.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He can debate me in New Amsterdam.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 13 minutes ago

Old New York?

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 hours ago

My first thought was that they have a mosque in America named Hagia Sophia like all the towns named after European cities.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 3 hours ago

They don't gaf. They care about winning at all costs. Pyrrhic victory.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm thinking this guy is just a Civ player, and thinks that if we take Istanbul by force, it will give all of our missionaries +1....

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago

Ok but right now Ghandi is fucking me up with his Protestant missionaries and I really can’t afford to lose my religion this early in game

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 17 points 3 hours ago

I really feel like it should be disqualifying for a candidate to lie about campaign promises. I get that it's not always straightforward to say what's a lie, but in this case, it's obvious.

Not only has he said that he's going to change something that the Senate has no power to change, but he's acting like he personally would have the power to do it himself, instead of simply being 1 voice out of 100.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

I mean...

To make it a Christian church, they first had to remove over 400 pagan statues...

A shit ton of religions have used it as a holy site, seems fucking stupid to argue to roll it back halfway.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m thinking of some other landmark but wasn’t this building explicitly built with the original intent of being multi-faith?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Kind of?

All those pagan statues weren't to one god, it was just a shit ton of pagan gods.

"Multi-faith" was the norm until the Abrahamic religions started insisting everyone follow one God and no other Gods were real. So pretty much every religious site pre-monotheism had some multi faith elements.

So in early cities, they'd have a "city god" but also usually be accepting of earlier rural gods and the gods of friendly neighbly cities

Like, it's hard to explain how much Abraham fucked shit up when he started the precedent of not tolerating any other god except his personal Sky Daddy.

But it's still really new on the timescale of human history

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I like the idea — if we are going to undo things, do it 100%. Go back to a pagan worship site.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago

Reject modernity. Embrace tradition. Make Christmas into Saturnalia again!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

These Christian Nationalist fucks will be the end of us if we let them.

Your religious beliefs and rules are for you, not everyone else.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 56 minutes ago

Christian Nationalist

Nationalist Christian, or Nat-C for short.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

Well, Republican politicians are known for being extremely fucking stupid.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 hours ago

So it turns out that christians actually LOVE removing pagan statues.

[–] human@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

OK, hear me out.

If he clearly has no idea what he can and can't do as a US Senator, he might be just the guy we need taking up a Republican seat.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Donald doesn't understand what he can and can't do as president. But I can't say that's worked out particularly well.

I don't mind the out-of-the-box thinking, though.

Counter-proposal: good, smart people run as candidates. For both parties. It can only good happen!

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

Republicans (and especially Republican politicians) can only be good or smart, not both.

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

So, is this just the next step in dismantling NATO?