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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fixation on food security

The man is OBSESSED with food security.

All he thinks about is FEEDING PEOPLE.

What kind of SICK FUCK just goes around all day wondering how to GENERATE ENOUGH FOODSTUFF FOR 1.4B PEOPLE

Jesus FUCKING Christ, what a psycho.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I take offense with this because I AM actually obsessed with food security and food-related struggles, and Xi Jinping does other things than single-mindedly doing food-related activism and work all the time. He's a poser

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Yes. The single individual. Forcing this country of over a billion people against their will to have their own sustainable food supply. On his own. Like a dictator.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Is there a moral case against prohibiting any The Economist staff member from having access to writing materials of any kind? BEcuase I think, for the good of humanity...

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

New China filter just dropped. China is neon orange now.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

President Biden, please start bombing. My country yearns for hunger.

[–] stevatoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Shit he's giving food to people with his comically large spoon!

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People are choosing to ignore the problem: the farmers that are planting rice aren't making as much money farming as farmers that are able to plant for profit, and the gov't isn't doing sufficient to make up for the loss of revenue while despite requiring their labor for the good of the state. As stated in the lede, "But these new plans clash with other signature directives, including pulling farmers out of poverty—and that is causing resentment and confusion." If farmers discover that they can go do other things that involve less backbreaking work and make more money doing it, then you have fewer people willing to farm in the first place. Which, of course, you can solve by using forced labor, since no one seems to give a shit about the Uyghurs.

If you believe that the state is more important than any personal rights to individual self determination, then sure, this is a totally fair policy. If you believe that the state has the right to enforce poverty on one group of people in order to ensure the comfort of a different group of people is morally justified, then it's also cool.

I would say that if the state expects people to do labor, then the state should be expected to pay for that labor. Particularly when that state has the 2nd greatest number of billionaires of any country in the world, and could not realistically be called "communist" when compared to any of the source material.

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i dunno i think not dying of starvation is a great human right to have

If you believe that the state has the right to enforce poverty on one group of people

citation needed

since no one seems to give a shit about the Uyghurs.

yes, they are making rice in the deserts of xinjiang using slave labor because there's a shortage of farmers in china. no wait the article is about sichuan

and the gov't isn't doing sufficient to make up for the loss of revenue

yes the chinese government is famous for not supporting it's agricultural sector

I would say that if the state expects people to do labor, then the state should be expected to pay for that labor.

meanwhile the united states actually does use slave labor in the deserts of california, but nobody seems to give a shit about americans

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (59 children)

...Why are yall supporting the CCP forcing farmers to do something against their will? How do you expect underpaid, overworked farmers to turn a profit and provide for their families if you're making them grow a bunch of dirt cheap rice?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I completely support forcing business owners to do something that improves people's lives.

And if you do not, you are my enemy.

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[–] flan@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well it’s a good thing they’re in a country with a robust social safety net in that case.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow what a fucking hack job.

It states there is, in fact, a guaranteed standard of living. Moreover China has a guaranteed residence for every citizen. If that out of work rural worker wants the minimum income and a roof over his head, all he has to do is go back home (using heavily subsidised transport). Which sucks, but losing a job and having to move back to your hometown isn't exactly something unheard of in Western nations.

China has a way to go in terms of healthcare and other benefits, but given it's providing a better safety net to vastly more people over a larger area with 1/4th of the USA's GDP and an industrial base that is still largely rural it's doing an astounding job.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

guaranteed standard of living

For people under the poverty line, which is only $2.30 a day. So their "standard of living" is $840 a year to get by on. Even in China that's not fucking sustainable.

China has a way to go in terms of healthcare and other benefits

So you're saying you're cool with Chinese farmers not being able to afford going to the hospital because Supreme Leader Xi forced them to grow the cheapest crops imaginable?

If that out of work rural worker wants the minimum income and a roof over his head, all he has to do is go back home

Lol. Lmao even. "Losing your job and abandoning your home because of authoritarian regulations is ok'

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even in China that's not fucking sustainable.

Post a source. There are many places in China where you can buy a meal for less than an American quarter

You can even buy breakfast with 40 cents in BEIJING

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/breakfast-40-cents-what-chinas-deflation-looks-like-2023-08-10/

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

” The Center for Strategic and International Studies CSIS lists major funding from defense contractors such as Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon Company and General Atomics.[35]

Significant funding has come from the governments of the United States, Japan, Taiwan, and the United Arab Emirates.[36]”

lol

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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

provide for their families

Not a problem in a socialist country, the CPC is not stupid, they will make sure adequate social protections are in place for the people who represent the sickle in the hammer and sickle symbol.

Bernie, the man you support, would agree with this decision, to fight hunger and ensure food security for the citizenry.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China is socialist in name only.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Their mode of production is called a "socialist market economy". The leadership uses socialist theory to guide their decisions on running the country. Why would this not be socialism?

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

good for feeding people

not valuable

choose one, piggy

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

People aren't valuable. Simple as.

[–] kd637_mi@leminal.space 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nooo you can't just make food to feed people without a profit motive!

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Real “why are the cells multiplying and building tissue without a profit motive?!” energy

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is like my dad said about how Xi is sending youth into the countryside to farm like in Mao's Cultural Revolution (he was talking about how there are incentive for the government to send educated people to do town development)

Better die in a field than suffer in a cubicle

[–] fox@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Catch me finding idyllic peace while growing prosperity in solidarity with my neighbors and the environment

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

send educated people to do town development

god what an unimaginable dystopian hell. rather than just let their small towns rot alongside the people in them the government is forcing people to go and develop those areas with juicy incentives

like imagine going and getting an education and then being able to choose to do socially valuable work that the government heavily encourages

i'm gonna cry

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