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they were all owned by the same company and sold to Kape, which has ties to the Israeli intelligence service, a few years back.

The issue is who he sold it to -- the notorious creator of some pernicious data-huffing ad-ware, Crossrider. The UK-based company was cofounded by an ex-Israeli surveillance agent and a billionaire previously convicted of insider trading who was later named in the Panama Papers. It produced software which previously allowed third-party developers to hijack users' browsers via malware injection, redirect traffic to advertisers and slurp up private data.

I personally use perfect-privacy, which didn't turn up any red flags when I did research a few years ago. it's a little lacking in features but openvpn isn't that hard to set up on linux & android. no clue how well their desktop app works.

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[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

glad to see another fan of the "it all has backdoors, but opposing governenments can do a lot less harm with it" approach to cybersecurity

[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

ha jokes on them I have an inbox rule to forward everything to support@kremlin.ru

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Literally insane, just don't move to Russia idiots

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Westerners don’t want to admit this, but the only safe VPNs are made by their enemies lol. And this isn’t even “tankie” propaganda. If you were Russian or Chinese it’d be your best interest to use western VPNs. Maybe not American ones unless you want to end up like burned Iranian CIA assets

[–] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kaspersky was at least at one point a resold version of hotspot.

here’s an article that has a lot of details.

Hotspot isn’t exactly in the best situation to be a vpn you’d trust if you were worried about law enforcement.

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[–] moondog@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Kaspersky:

Server speeds of up to 10 Gbps keep your devices running fast

Does this mean I have to browse through them at 10Gbps instead of the typical 100Gbps I get from my ISP? Seems a bit painful

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh motherfucker PIA is the one I use

Thankfully the main reason I have it is just to steal video games but I’ll make sure that doesn’t renew

[–] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mullvad is what I use, haven't heard of any controversies with them.

I used to use Mullvad but switched because PIA was cheaper and a looooot of sites and apps were blocking me when I used Mullvad.

Fuck you Wendys I don’t want to turn off my VPN on work wifi just to order food

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seconding Mullvad, you can send them an envelope of cash or buy a code off amazon if you really care about it that much. Technically they're in a 14 eyes country but no one here is important enough to worry about that.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

angel-biblical there are too many eyes

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only problem is that they don't support port forwarding, so if you're a serious torrent person that can be disqualifying.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

main reason I have it is just to steal video games

why do you need a VPN for that? Can you get in trouble if you don't use it?

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’ve gotten letters from my ISP in years prior. For torrenting Silicon Valley and Gambo Thrones if I remember right

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US seems to be pretty strict with it's IP laws, crazy stuff. I've seeded like a 100TB of data and never gotten anything from my ISP

in canada isps are obligated to pass on what IP holders accuse you of, but they don't actually do anything about it. the rights holders are the ones tracking torrents or whatever. i've torrented tons of music and movies and the only time i got an email was when i torrented the lady ghostbusters lol

ive heard that in the us an ISP can decide to stop providing service to you if you get too many tho

I believe the US works much the same way

[–] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Depends on where you live, but they like to periodically make examples out of people and sue them for like half a million dollars

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Once again plugging ProtonVPN.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

perfect-privacy

$120 a year, god damn. I used PIA because it was $80 for 3 years and because like 10 people can use the same account.

for others switching from PIA,

  • kaspersky is about $35 a year ($30 first year, then $45) for 5 devices

  • protonvpn $60 a year for 10 devices with the 2 year plan

  • Mullvad is $60ish a year for 5 devices (no port forwarding)

  • IVPN is $80 a year for 7 devices with 2 yr plan (no port forwarding)

[–] lapis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also was just looking, and that "reasonable price if you prepay for two years" nonsense is, well, nonsense. I ain't exactly looking to spend $120+ all at once while crossing my fingers in the hopes the service doesn't suck.

Kaspersky seems like a good move, the page is saying it renews at $40/yr which is only $10 more than my current provider. Only five devices is a shame, though.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I was leaving towards them too. I paid for two years of NordVPN and got a refund when it sucked ass, so I'm guessing other companies do that if it isn't great

[–] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

There’s a significant difference between the threat model surrounding vpns that you intend to use for port forwarding torrents and vpns you intend to use to protect yourself from data harvesting/the cops.

Don’t expect one to do both.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm posting this here because a lot of use a VPN for organizing. this doesn't matter if all you care about is torrenting.

[–] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I totally agree. I made my post for the same reason but not in direct reply to anyone talking about torrenting.

E: the thing I’m generally posting in the direction of is that all vpns aren’t the same and just turning yours on before you click on the link while you flip down your sunglasses and say “I’m in” or even checking out a company’s reviews before you sign up isn’t enough to keep you protected in the limited ways that VPNs are able to.

I’m using a hypothetical “you” here, not trying to accuse you of those practices in a passive aggressive way.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I follow, just wanted to clarify because I didn't call it out in the post

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[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sure they still spy on my torrents but this is why I don't use any vendor provided apps or software for VPN shit (or anything else without a very compelling reason tbh), it's practically guaranteed to be adware or spyware

I guess it's time to check if my provider is on this list though

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know the situation on Windows but the network manager VPN integration on Gnome is actually pretty amazing. Just have my VPN set to auto connect and it just works and comes right back up without any drama when the system wakes from sleep or switches access appints etc. definitely +1 for not using the vendor apps.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Huh I've been using that same integration for years with ubuntu, and now pop os, and haven't seen an option to auto-connect... Not sure I'd want to anyhow for this particular device since I have a bunch of different vpns configured but wondering where you set that? Maybe it's just Pop that doesn't have that in the UI? I'm sure I can toggle it in nmcli

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The old Pop! shell (I assume you're using the old one since last I checked the new one written in rust isn't ready to daily yet, hopefully soon though...) hasn't gotten any love in a long time, but I'm surprised you don't see it in Ubuntu. Here's what it looks like for me on Fedora:

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what's weird is I see that on wifi connections but not VPN. On VPN I only get "Make available to other users". Maybe it's the openvpn integration specifically, as opposed to wireguard. I haven't checked ubuntu recently but I don't thiiiink I had it on 18.04/20.04

Oh that could be, I'll set up an openVPN connection later and see if it's any different.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I hate this dystopia

Minecraft, Roblox, GTA.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I set up a Wireguard appliance on my VM host a while back but never got around to actually setting my PC up to actually be able to use it or anything

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I dont think anything conspiricy brained me quite as much as what happed to the person who leaked the Panama Papers. Not Epstein, not the Jakarta Method, not that time when the FBI and CIA found out every member of the Trot Org they were infiltrating was an informant...

[–] lapis@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once again happy with my decision to use Torguard ages ago.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen their mastodon account?

https://home.speakfree.social/@torguard

Surprised anyone in this instance would use their service since they use their social media account to more or less do NAFO posting.

[–] lapis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's interesting to know about, I guess. I signed up ages ago, on a lifetime $30/yr deal, so they'd have to do something genuinely evil for me to consider some service that's 2-4x the price.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I got letters over a damn textbook when I was in college. I'll need to switch vpns. I need something with port forwarding ideally.

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any body know of any good ones that use wireguard? I have PIA (didn't do anything I needed to be actually secure on fortunately) since I get amazing performance with wire guard vs openvpn, or least it seems to be a lot less picky when the underlying connection is weird or unreliable.

Also, for anyone who needs to hear it, a VPN alone will not protect you and you shouldn't use both at the same time unless you know what you're doing and the security consequences.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think wireguard is recommended yet for privacy reasons, but mullvad has always been solid AFAIK. You can even pay in cash if you like.

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