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[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 162 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Real answer: these are actually real languages! They're just conlangs, or constructed languages, instead of natural languages. The major problem with conlangs generally ends up being the limited vocabulary, but the grammar foundations are usually solid.

I actually really like Klingon as a language because it was intentionally designed to be alien, and specifically to be very Klingon. Most languages are Subject-Verb-Object (like English and other Western languages) or Subject-Object-Verb (like Japanese or Hindi). Klingon, however, is Object-Verb-Subject - it's very direct with the emphasis placed on the target of the sentence, which makes sense with the Star Trek world and Klingon culture.

Fun fact, Klingon has at least one native speaker - some guy raised his daughter to speak Klingon as well as English. (I'm not a fan of this - on one hand, learning multiple languages from an early age is a huge leg up in being able to learn more languages in the future, but on the other hand Klingon is entirely useless as a primary language given its structure and the few other people who speak it.)

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So klingons would like the song Hammer Smashed Face?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

Face, smashed by hammer.

[–] gramathy@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, that’s still subject-verb-object or at least adjective clause-noun depending on how it’s read (it should have a hyphen in that case but stuff like that gets left out a lot)

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

That can't be right. I've never heard of a language called Dutch. That's just something they print on some food labels to make them seem better.

/s for the dense.

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[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 117 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are two things in the world I can't stand: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No? Well, then there ish no pleashing you.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (10 children)

It's funnier with French because no one hates the Dutch language more than the Dutch, but France thinks everything it does is the best.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm Dutch and I approve this message.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why do the Dutch hate the language?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a stupid language making no sense at all. Weird grammer. Plus, it has weird sounds. Like the R and G, and flattened vowels. Whenever our prime-minister speaks English, it's a massive shame factor for any Dutch person. Oh and not just the current bozo, the past several as well. Like if it's mandatory to speak horrible English to become prime-minister or something.

French accent? Super sexy. Irish? Scottish? Oeh yeah. German? So sophisticated, or a female with soft German: rrrrrrrr, melting. Italian? Spanish? Greek? Hell yeah. Norwegian, Danish? So bad ass viking. Swedish? Sure. Even Sud Afrikaans English accent is sexy AF. That language even originates from Dutch!

But Dutch itself? Boner gone, give me a paper bag with 2 holes in it and fast!

It's not without reason English officially isn't considered a foreign language in the Netherlands anymore. There are even talks about adapting it as a second national language, as the general knowledge of English is of a certain level, it's getting close to Dutch. The only people in the Netherlands who are unable to speak English are a few boomers and some who haven't read any book besides the Bible.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Because the entire language is a fucking exception

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[–] Vrtrx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

French people are busy hating on themselves. I've heard about French people hating on people from Paris so since Ive ment French people during my exchange/foreign semester I tried asking them if they really hate people from Paris and they confirmed it for me. All non Paris French people hate on Paris French people lol

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[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Right, what’s ‘Dutch’?

[–] odium@programming.dev 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Deutsch is the German word for German. I think they just made a typo and put the wrong flag or smth.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

A kind of oven, I think.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago

It's when everyone pays their own bill at the restaurant.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

A kind of rudder iirc

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Swampgerman.

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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Houd je smoel anders zet ik je je kop tussen twee oren

[–] match@pawb.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we got high valyrian before Persian or Tagalog

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's properly called Hollandaise.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I don’t believe you. Sauce?

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[–] ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

nIDwI' leghmajvaD ngoQ'e' nIDwI'! (This aggression will not stand!)

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

wait till this guy finds out people still learn Latin

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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nou mag je eens heel goed luisteren, jij hondelul.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

Go wizard somewhere else, Gandalf.

And take your clogs with you.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holländisch ist nur Deutsch wenn man Halsschmerzen hat.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More like rapidly flipping german, french, english, swedish and danish channels on a TV

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in the process of learning German so my mental shorthand way of thinking about Dutch is that it's basically German with extra As and Os.

[–] PM_me_your_doggo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dutch is like a German describing to Englishman that he just took a bite of a very hot potato

[–] jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Dutch is like if german and english had a baby together but when it was 10 english cheated with french and ran off

[–] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's just Swamp German

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SPRICH DEUTSCH DU HURENSOHN

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[–] mutter9355@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is not a Dutch flag, that is the flag of Luxembourg...

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[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Zeg makker …

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh shit... Can I learn Tolkien's elvish on DuoLingo? :O

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately not. Tolkien was more interested in developing the history and evolution of his languages then developing the languages themselves. Sindarin and Quenya are the two most-developed of Tolkien's languages, but there is not nearly enough vocabulary to be usable as a language.

And unlike some other conlangs, there's a strong hesitancy to embracing fan-made extensions on the works of Tolkien.

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