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[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 130 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjva9m/afp-autistic-13-year-old-child-terrorism Original article, in case people don't want to take the word of a pepe person named "Right Wing Cope" for some reason.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 28 points 1 year ago

Thank you and sorry, I figured peeps would check the OP.

[–] blueson@feddit.nu 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think my largest issue was that they argued their point using a google-summary of an article. Thanks for linking the actual source.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I lived in a small town, and the cops were convinced that people were selling drugs at the Burger King.

So they had one of the new cops go undercover there for three months, and all they managed to get was some idiots who had a gram of weed (in a medical state) and five vicodin pills. The judge threw it out and warned the town about wasting the court's time.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that sounds like a very cool judge.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He knew he had a lot bigger fish to fry than two kids who stole drugs from their grandmother to get their coworker to stop bothering them about it.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago

One of my favourite legal principles I don't see applied enough "de minimis non curat lex", "the law does not concern itself with trifles".

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sounds like it. I wish more people were like this.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The strictest definition of entrapment is when an LEO orders you to do something illegal; because you have to obey an order. Like if a traffic cop waves you through the intersection against a light to clear the road, they cannot then issue you a ticket.

It depends a lot on what the cops actually said to this kid, but I think there's a good chance to make that case.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

since cops can kill with no repercussions "orders" should have a broad interpretation

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 1 year ago

I‘m not well versed in the law but others said so too.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Only entrapment if you have money. If you're poor this is just referred to as 'life'.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the decision, Fleming found law enforcement used “the guise of a rehabilitation service to entice the parents of a troubled child to engage in a process that resulted in potential harm to the child.”

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 17 points 1 year ago
[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 year ago

Cross-posting my comment from the other thread here because people should watch this video:

The only person at the senate inquiry into this that had any balls was Greens Senator David Shoebridge. Got his mic cut off for politely telling a cop to basically go fuck himself.

This is why I always put the Greens first on my ballot, in both state & federal and for both upper & lower houses. They’re the only viable leftist party in Australia imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbuFEl4M78

[–] Lath@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This type of cops would throw in a bag of hard drugs in someone's car because they know the perp is using, but they can't find the hiding place.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 25 points 1 year ago

They should go to jail. My personal opinion is that breaking the law as someone under an oath (law enforcement, judge, lawyer) should always face twice the punishment. Once for the actual crime and once for the audacity to do so as a trusted hand of the law and corrupting public trust.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Nope. Never were.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biblical old testament levels of it's a SIN if you can't resist all temptation.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 1 year ago

Very fitting.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, this isn’t unusual. Sidenote: the movie The Day Shall Come is an excellent dark comedy based on this type of operation.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if I should be intrigued or scared.

[–] xrun_detected@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

It's produced by Chris Morris, so: both ;)

[–] cyberfae@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly had nothing better to do with their time.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it. Or they had an axe to grind.

[–] Globeparasite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does a lot of anglo-saxon forces seems to not know what it means to investigate terrorism. Like they have the same problem with their FBI in Burgerland

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tl;dr: If you have autism, the police consider you an easy target for this sort of thing.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 year ago

*perpetrators consider you an easy target

There, fify

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of autistic people are easy targets for informants and undercover officers. We saw this with the boogaloo movement. It's a bunch of informants who are blatantly exploiting the fact that autistic people are likely going to be vulnerable to people offering them a sense of acceptance and have trouble seeing through a setup.

The 2021 gun rights rally at the Ohio capitol was a perfect example of this. It was around two weeks after J6 and there was a supposed national gun rights rally that was supposed to happen at state capitols. It got called out by gun rights influencers who warned everyone that it was a setup because there was no organizer behind it and it was likely an attempt to either make gun owners into felons or smear them in some way.

There was a group of boogaloo boys who showed up and their leader had signs of autism. He showed no awareness and tried getting seen with a transwoman at the event.

They also showed up to the George Floyd protests and tried to hijack the protests to promote the boogaloo movement.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 1 year ago

Welp, the effect of the insane american political system and the right to own murder weapons isnt gonna help autistic individuals at all.

He showed no awareness and tried getting seen with a transwoman at the event.

I dont know why this would be relevant.

I had to google this movement. Autistics can lack logical thinking as well, sadly.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. The enemy being the enemy, exactly as expected. It's a work of exceptional propaganda that anyone tolerates our dystopia.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Not only propaganda. Also hierarchical thinking. People think of others (and other creatures) as less. Thats the core problem imo. We need to understand that. Autistics are not lesser than allistics. People with personality disorders arent lesser, political opposites are not lesser, etc. cooperation instead of competition.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is that right wing cope when they were the ones trying to defund the police state that created this situation?

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
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