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They are still being being painted by hand. On a graphics tablet, for example.
Exactly, it's not the medium. It's like saying movies like Up aren't beautiful because of CG.
Yep.
Those older movies are beautiful achievements for sure. But it's disingenuous to say that there isn't a plethora of movies and shows today that rival and surpass those older examples visually. Not to speak of just how much more fluent animation has become.
Many of the people who worked on those older masterpieces are still in animation today, and have only become better at their art.
The older movies are more atractive because of the flaws, you see the pencil strokes changing between frames. Today IMO they are too flawless.
That's actually a really good point. The flaws make the beauty more human the same way music recorded reel to reel back in the 70s was very human because of the limitations of the day. And it is beautiful.
Not that a flawless thing can't be beautiful. I just have a bias towards the humanness (pencil strokes, tape flutter) of the older stuff because that's what I grew up with.
I’ve been listening to an album of 20’s and 30’s music. So good and so relevant. You have to find live music to hear that now for sure.
I also like how when a kid was a voice actor, they sounded like a damn kid, mistakes and all.
The Aristocats comes to mind, the song Scales and Arpeggios is a great example. I hate hearing weird robotic kids who are flawless or its clear they edited the shit out of a dozen takes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khvaIwonxUk&t=8
That’s one of the awesome things about Bluey. The voice acting is genuinely kids talking with their mums and dads.
Was at least, looks like Joe Blum wanted to end it, and Disney is keeping its corpse alive to license the shit out of it with no new episodes in production. Too bad really, but if the creator wanted to move on, he should have been allowed to.
I don't think it actually looks very good. The computer generated look is pretty fugly. Story is a different matte
Yeah, Up was a weird example for me, too, but as someone who has watched Moana two dozen times, it's always beautiful. The people are aged, with deep lines, the sand and the water and the straw, all the textures, all beautiful, and the setting is of course gorgeous.
Lilo and Stitch is a similar background, also so so beautiful, but it doesn't make Moana ugly or useless in comparison.
Fugly? De gustibus, I guess...
It's not the same. Of course things can be beautiful if painted on a tablet, but differently beautiful.
I guess it's a matter of taste then. I really enjoy the vibrancy and fluidity of animation we get today. And I find them to be no less expressive.
Studio Ghibli stuff has, up until recently, always been done by hand and it's about as vibrant and fluid as it gets.
It is a matter of taste, I agree.
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Oh fuck I need to make my movie club watch that. My dad loved that fucking movie.