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What about Fuck Hamas?
Without Israel, Hamas would not exist.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Hmmmm maybe you don't jack about shit.
Why do you support settler colonialism?
I am supporting FACTS. That is how Israel was founded
1 - Palestinians has nothing to do with the holocaust and did not have the obligation to give up their native land. The partition was a recommendation not an obligation
2 - Jews only owned 9% of the land and it was not contiguous land so Israel couldn't be created without mass displacement.
3 - Some Arab leaders suggested a one state solution which Zionists refused 3 - Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestinians in 48 there is zero legal justification foe ethnic cleansed
4 - Zionists got their country and was not satisfied so they end up colonizing Gaza and the west bank
5- Everybody including Israel strongest allies can't ignore vocally the settlements in the west bank. The whole west bank is Palestinians according to international law yet you can't condemn it yourself
6 - Genocide is bad no matter what excuse or justification you have
7- Israel always want the whole land
The funniest part of this whataboutism is that you don't realize that you're putting Israel at the same level as some terrorist organization.
That only assumes you get punished for writing that.
No Israel is just a smidge above Hamas. Neither one is great and I had to pick one to live beside it wouldn't be the Radical Muslim one.
Israel is the greater of two evils.
I mean, Israel has killed significantly more people in Gaza than Hamas ever did in Israel. In the most recent conflict Israel killed 35 Palestinians for every Israeli killed. Israel has also caused significantly more property damage to civilian infrastructure.
I would not want to live under Hamas control, certainly. But I also would not like to live next to Israel either.
What statistic are you using to measure "worst" here?
Well first off I wouldn't be picking a fight I knew I could NEVER win ( Hint, Palestine wasn't there when Israel was created so that is Israel's land) And B this most recent war was all started by Hamas. Israel is going to finish it once and for all from the river to the sea. Oh and there is this:
No Prior Arab State: There has never been an independent, sovereign Arab state in the region known as Palestine. The Arab population began developing a distinct Palestinian national identity toward the end of the Ottoman period and especially during the British Mandate in opposition to Jewish immigration and British rule.
Israel wasn't there when Israel was created either. This is some nonsense argumentation.
Hamas has been in armed conflict with Israel for decades. I think you're confusing peace with quiet. And even then there have been repeated attacks on Palestinian land by Israeli settlers.
Neither had there been a sovereign, independent Jewish state. There was however a semblence of a Palestinian national identity near the end of the Ottoman period, which is well before the establishment of Israel. Regardless, there were plenty of Arabic people living there. Zionist settlers had no right to colonise the region and drive these people from their homes.
You should really look into how Israel was established, especially look at the large amounts of Zionist terrorist groups seeking to commit ethnic cleansing. Jews had lived relatively peacefully in the region for centuries until these nationalist fanatics came along.
Even herzl called it Palestine
Why not both? Didn't know we had choose between a greater evil and the lesser evil that was pushed forth by the greater evil to tank any possibility of a diplomatic approach with the alternative.
"What about All Lives Matter? I didn't know we had to choose"
So by your metaphor, black people are terrorists?
About the only possible association is that the label was a dogwhistle by people who are racists, but within your example you equate a terrorist group, Hamas, to people who have been victims of prejudice due to their skin color, essentially whitewashing terrorists as victims.
You people (Hamas apologists) give yourselves away when you want people to denounce Israel but denouncing Israel while also denouncing Hamas is too much for you. Palestinians are not Hamas, but you people and Israel have a shared interest in making them be one and the same.
You guys use hamas as an excuse to justify israel continuing the occuption. Of course hamas should be condemned when they attack civilians but let's not pretend that it is the reason why palestinians are not free
Oh look, it's Mr. Down again. How's the propaganda run going? Accusing Hamas as well as Israel is not using Hamas to justify Israel. You are just trying gaslight. Anyway, back off to the block list you go, although your comment is surprising on par with those of Israeli disinformation troll brigades.
Which part of my comment is propaganda? Where did you see anybody defending Hamas? When the last time you condemned Israel in the hundred of posts about Israeli war crimes. About the mass scale rape, the mass scale torture , the mass scale bombardment , about the settler violence, about the expulsion of Palestinian in the west bank? About Israel using human shields, about the 83% of death in Gaza being civilians.
This post is about someone being expulsed for saying F Israel be honest do you think it was right to expulse him or not?
So we are in agreement. Fuck Israel and Fuck Hamas. Oh wait, that's right, for all your gaslighting, you still have a problem with the second part of that comment, you just won't admit it.
Sorry to disappoint you but no I don't have an issue to condemn Hamas massacring innocent Israelis. I think israeli should end occupation and during a Truth and Reconciliation process war criminals from both sides should be held accountable
Cool, Fuck Israel and Fuck Hamas, and all their Hasbara and Panarab apologists.
Yes. We need the occupation and held both side uncountable
Can you break down the 3rd sentence?
What's there to break down? Hasbara and Panarab Hamas apologists just gaslight in a very similar manner. Just go to r/worldnews on reddit and try to argue with one of the Hasbara brigade accounts that hog jpost propaganda pieces. You get your feet wet, you begin to notice the similarities.
I have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You seem completely unable to accept Israel is a MASSIVELY SIGNIFICANT part of Hamas' rise.