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every single one; when I see a shitty tel aviv influencer join the IDF, I look forward to them being exploded by heroic Hamas resistance fighters; I pray constantly for their violent death

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

moles providing intel to the resistance or conducting effective sabotage internally might need to be considered on a case-by-case basis

[–] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

US cops too

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hamas hasn't gone far enough.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's gonna be fun seeing this screen grabbed on Fox News

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

10000-com

also throw in US troops too

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For some reason this is a controversial take here and people keep telling me the troops will join the revolution even though idf service is compulsory and everybody who signs up to serve in the larger even more genocidal army is doing it willingly.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (20 children)

its because every revolution in history has had a military component and envisioning one for the US based on historical materialism requires working in military participation as a prerequisite.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the military will be either:

  1. Neutral
  2. Opposed
  3. Supportive, or
  4. Split

1 and 4 are real possibilities, but a lot of folks want to foreclose any avenue for anyone who's ever been associated with the military to take part.

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[–] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People really fell for the "the US army is made of poor people doing what they can to survive" propaganda of the 00s.

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I mean I joined the military cause I was broke and homeless. I did 5 years active duty and I'm here an committed as fuck to leftist ideals and revolution.

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[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

People should be given a chance to grow and change(not where it can harm others), I do believe redmeption is possible, and that humanity is not something you can loose.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People say this a lot, but the fact that the former US troops here on Hexbear haven't been driven off makes me wonder about the depths of their conviction.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'd hope their conviction isn't real, because wishcasting mass death like this (1) is a purely aesthetic choice that does nothing but look unhinged and (2) is far in excess of even the most punitive measures suggested after WWII.

"We're going to kill every one of you if we win" makes winning harder, not easier.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

the fact that the former US troops here on Hexbear haven't been driven off

Well if history is anything to go by, they'll slink off under cover of darkness, leaving their allies to be overrun by the Taliban.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

every time i see one of those IDF thirst trap tiktoks i straight up feel guilty for being attracted to women

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bloodlust leads to war crimes.

Leftists would do well to remember to retain and value their humanity. It should be what separates us from them. This isn't a call for pacifism, btw. It's a call to not lose yourself in hate and dehumanization.

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BakedBeanEnjoyer@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Service is compulsory in Israel. Every single person who doesn't have an specific exemption has to serve.

90% of people who ask for an exemption are denied. If you don't serve, you can be thrown in military prison. Usually this lasts for 90 days. You'll also be dishonorable discharged which can affect employment opportunities.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if the taylor swift fake news account can refuse service, so can everyone

[–] BakedBeanEnjoyer@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you think the average 18 year old who has been indoctrinated since birth threatened with jail and loss of employment deserves death, then you're just not serious.

Not even Mao or Stalin treated enemy soldiers as harshly as this.

[–] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not even Mao or Stalin treated enemy soldiers as harshly as this.

And now the world is run by Nazis. Thank you for pointing out their failures.

[–] BakedBeanEnjoyer@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine blaming the current world on Mao and Stalin not executing low-level conscripts instead of the US literally importing and supporting Nazi leadership and their programs.

Not a hint of materialism on Hexbear is there.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I mean here you are with some materialism on hexbear, so thanks!

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascism isn't genetic, it's a result of material conditions. We have fascism today not because we didn't execute every Nazi in 1945, but because today's "capitalism in decay" conditions are similar to those of a century ago.

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Dishonorable discharged from the IDF should look great on a resume anywhere not genocidal in the world

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

terrible struggle session, next time you want to vent your anger in this way do it in a journal or something don't make it our problem

[–] DirtyPair@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

bunch of fuckin' libs in this thread.

it's just a bunch of words on a screen comrade nobody here is gonna be executing anyone jfc

edit: they're concern trolling, aren't they?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're right, this sort of fantasizing is pure aesthetics.

What people are pushing back on is the idea that fantasizing about mass killings is a good aesthetic choice. It's pretty online.

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[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

LMAO THE IDF THOUGHT THIS WOULD MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD, WHAT THE FUCK

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

https://www.jns.org/israel-news/idf/23/7/23/304719/

Google "IDF down syndrome" you will get way too many pictures of IOF members with down syndrome, and a video of a Palestinian with down syndrome getting his neck beaten by IOF members, truly the scummiest of the world

[–] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Extremely exploitative

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is basically a cum town bit.

Nick: What if a guy with down syndrome was a war criminal?

Stav cackles

Adam: like if Goebbels had down syndrome?

Nick: no like if a regular guy with down syndrome joins the military and they immediately put him in a position to do war crimes

Stav, laughing: I like the implication that every military just has a war crimes division

Nick: well, what are they gonna do? NOT commit war crimes?

Adam: I don't see how that would be beneficial; to have a guy with down syndrome in there.

Nick: think about it, if a regular guy did a drone strike on a school bus... Well, he'd probably get away with it. But if a guy with down syndrome did it, he'd probably get away with it AND the people on Twitter aren't allowed to criticize it.

Stav: oh I thought you were going on a different direction, like Lenny [sic] from Mice and Men

Nick: no, this way they'd be immune to prosecution AND criticism. Its the perfect system

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[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having known Israelis who didn't serve, there are options. Of course, to get conscientious objector status, you can't let them trick you with the "would you kill a nazi" question like they did the Taylor swift fan account.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

That Taylor swift fan account was so real for going to prison rather than serving the IOF

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Fed up with Israeli war crimes.

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[–] JayTwo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I love all you folx but I'm gonna be honest here. This is just where I go to shitpost, and occasionally get a little too sincere when I briefly forget where I am.

It's not where I go to discuss tactics or nuance.

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