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[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (8 children)

https://www.teamblind.com/post/Accidentally-sent-my-son-to-Japan-to-study-Chinese-fxdjjwqJ

This has to be a bit. They didn't want to send their son to Taiwan because they have a "hillbilly accent", so they sent him to Japan instead?

[–] axont@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Japan also seemed like the better choice because the northern latitude coincided with China’s capital, Beijing.

What is going on in this person's brain? Do they think the magnetic poles impact a person's accent? Being closer to the equator makes you sound more like a hick or what lmao

Ah yes studying Arabic in Mexico will help me develop an Algerian accent because of the latitude

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

equator makes you sound more like a hick

kelly hicquator

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Oh dear god I think he first learned Taiwan has a different accent, and separately learned that it's in the south, so therefore there would be a southern accent and mentally melded the two together as Taiwanese have a hillbilly accent

He then learned the University of Tokyo has a good Mandarin course, and it's on the same level latitude as Beijing, so he would get a proper northerner accent.

If this is real, this guy is incredible

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[–] meth_dragon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i just wanted to point out that an exaggerated taiwanese accent is generally perceived to be more effeminate to your average mainlander. so their son was not in any danger of sounding like a hillbilly, at worst people might think he was gay or fem

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

at worst people might think he was gay

So the one part of China that is not ruled by the Communist Party is the same part of China whose locals are most likely to sound like "comrades"?

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is actually a thing, Taiwanese Mandarin accents are difficult to the point that even Taiwanese people acknowledge it because the other way around with another accent is usually easier to understand

[–] Droplet@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What? Taiwanese Mandarin is extremely standard and perfectly understandable for anyone who speaks putonghua. I can still tell if someone is Taiwanese but it is very close to Standard Mandarin compared to many regional accents in Mainland China.

Now, Hong Kong people trying to speak Mandarin, on the other hand, can be a complete mess and their accents hard to decipher.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine if the OP sent their son to some other Chinese diaspora and comes back with fluent Wenzhounese and is completely unable to communicate with 99.95% of Mandarin and Cantonese speakers

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[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also, I would imagine that Japan is much closer to China in terms of culture and language, than Mexico is to the US or the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnsiZOJjfUg

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

than Mexico is to the US

There are no Chicanos in Ba Sing Se

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean there are immigrant areas in Japan. There's a big Chinese community in Yokohama, which is reasonably close to Tokyo.

But I guess that would involve interactions with working class Chinese immigrants, or second generation kids of immigrants. And that's not the type of people some fancy rich kid would want to be around.

What kind of racism do you need to assume Japanese people simply know how to speak Mandarin and also use it in their daily lives? And what kind of racism do you need to not even investigate this. They could have sent the kid to Singapore or Malaysia, a lot of people speak Mandarin there.

If you were going to do it that way you could have done it in the US

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Critical support to this guy's large adult son, who is either:

  1. Offline enough to not know about Japan through manga/anime/Vtubers/Jpop/hentai/video games and genuinely didn't know his father was making a huge mistake

or

  1. Knows and opted not to tell his brain dead father for a free trip to Japan

both are good bits.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Nice thesis and antithesis there, but I must propose the synthesis "offline enough to not know about Japan through pop culture soft power shit, but also totally knew his dad was being an ass but opted not to say anything in order to get a free trip to Japan"

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I didn't do any research and I didn't ask any questions. This sucks. Why didn't anyone tell me."

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The "research" here was just going to the Chinese language wiki page.

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Before all you holier-than-thou people jump in and call me racist, I am AWARE. That Japan also speaks Japanese.

The author is right. How could we possibly assume from the context of this post that they are a racist who wouldn’t know that the Japanese people ALSO speak Japanese?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He could’ve gone to Singapore, or Taiwan, or just came back to Germany and lived in Chinatown or something. But instead he decided to go to Japan to learn Chinese to own da gommies

[–] Dyno@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

back to germany

I'm guessing the "ethnic German" actually means they're Americans with German great-great-great-great-grandparents

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

This is 100% the case.

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[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does someone send their child to another country without knowing that Japan isn't China. Did they try to send them by air mail because it also involves a plane?

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Racism. Which is ironic because they sent their kid to a country that is racist against the people who speak the language they sent the kid there to learn.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

My son came back from Japan after going there to learn Chinese. When he came back, he suddenly had an interest in this thing called Hentai? I didn't know China was so cultured.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprised he didn’t just send the kid to Taiwan.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Western minds, Taiwan is not Chinese. It’s a place the evil Chinese want to take over.

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[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's probably drunk the Kool aid and thinks Taiwan people don't speak Chinese but a totally different indigenous language

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mandela effect from a universe where the Taiwanese Indigenous languages did not all become extinct, moribund, or endangered

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i wish i had enough money to accidentally go to the wrong country to learn a language. send me to japan to learn chinese. then I'll cross the East China Sea to learn Japanese (I will reply to anyone who tries to speak Japanese at me in Japan with "wakarimasen" because I know that one already). once I'm done learning Japanese I'll go to India and learn Arabic.

this could be my life sicko-wistful

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I went to school with a guy who thought he could just move to Rome to learn Latin. Even 13 year old me was like "I'm pretty sure they speak Italian in Rome".

spoilers: He grew out of his Roman Empire worship days, did not go to Rome or the Vatican to learn Latin by age 16.

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[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Wandering around downtown Oslo and repeatedly imploring "omelette du fromage" at passersby

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao what level of racism is this?

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

It’s a very hard level to pinpoint. On one hand it’s classic ignorance to anything outside of California. On the other hand, they are actively making racist remarks about other dialects of Chinese.

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[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like the lodge a complaint with how stupid this motherfucker is

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[–] Angel@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cringe How do people like this exist long enough to have children but not gain awareness?

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Having children is extremely easy for most. Raising them is the harder part, but people like this hire an Ecuadorian nanny and call them Mexican. Then send their kids to Denmark to learn Kirundi.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

American schooling at its finest blob-no-thoughts

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

soo...China isn't a dictatorship. It considers itself to be a democracy

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[–] amphibian@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

theres no way this is real its way too hilarious omfg

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Learn Chinese at the university and Japanese in daily life, and as you learn Japanese, learn tips and tricks for converting shinjitai into kyuujitai into simplified hanzi, as well as tips and tricks for converting kango into Middle Chinese into Putonghua. If you can't look at 流星 ryuusei and automatically know that it's something like *liuxing in Putonghua and then you just sort of happen to get the tones right, then that is a skill issue and you can ligma balls

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We wanted my son to learn the standard Chinese. Japan also seemed like the better choice because the northern latitude coincided with China’s capital, Beijing.

what

of course, the latitude determines the language. thats why everyone in dublin and moscow have the same accent

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

yea but lenin spoke english in a irish accent, checkmate liberal

I feel like if you're wealthy enough to make a mistake this costly and foolish then you should have to go in front of a jury of your peers and they should decide to revoke your drivers license for five years.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stupid fucker should have gone to Malaysia

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[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Large Adult Son goes to Japan

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

More stupid than racist.

[–] Packet@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

That sounds like something incredibly white and incredibly rich, how would you send your kid to a country you don't even know anything about???? Whiter than golf behaviour

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