the_dunk_tank

Russia is a white european country. The only reason they're allied with China is bc Western capitalist elites are not too racist (relative to avg crackers)--they care more for money than race. Thus, they want Russian oil and other massive Siberia resources, even if it means killing Russians

It's more because liberals will use the electoral college to make their point in a way. In their Russia fantasy the disinformation campaign influenced enough swing state voters to turn the electoral vote in favor of Trump.

They'll even acknowledge that the electoral college is flawed (they've been on that spiel ever since the 2000 election), but they won't ever actually make a push to reform or completely get rid of it because they also wholeheartedly believe American institutions are damn near infallible.

I love the irony in the cognitive dissonance:

"Everyone believes they are immune to propaganda." - Group of Redditors buying into blatant propaganda.

Yes, it's Russian propaganda that caused Hillary to lose, and not her unmasked contempt for anyone not completely adherent to neoliberal ideology. The success of the previously unknown Bernie's campaign should have been a wake up call to at least act like you could play nice with the more progressive folks. Bernie was never going to be the VP pick, but there were a handful of others that would have been at least throwing a bone to that part of the base.

Nope, she picks Tim "Pro Life" fucking Kaine, but it was Russian ops that convince those Michigan voters to pick Stein.

IMO both things are true. Yes she won the popular vote undeniably, however that doesn't excuse her disastrous campaign, most of the time Trump would not have been even close and the electoral college issue is something they as Adults In The Room^tm^ should have taken into account when propping up Trump. At this point it is all academic debate anyway, like going back and looking at what they did wrong etc.

The point is yes she won, but it should not have been that close and it wasn't an upset or unlikely result, it is now understood it was just their incompetence overall.

The same thing is happening right now too, Biden should be far more popular than Trump under almost every scenario except for the fact Dems keep making incredibly dumb decisions, almost as if they don't want to win...

Russian hackers hacked the results so it flipped to a Trump victory instead.

Serious answer: the DNC was not in a position to admit defeat, for it would mean conceding defeat to the progressive wing led by Bernie Sanders, which was growing stronger by the day back in 2017. Hillary’s loss had to be blamed on something, or someone. Lie through the teeth if they had to, but they cannot risk having their party getting overrun by the progressives. The Russians thus became the scapegoat to this intraparty struggle in the DNC.

Just remember there is nothing to understand. It's cope. Those idiots lost a layup with a bad candidate and a surprisingly good showing from Trump.

They won't take responsibility, so it was a Russian disinfo thingy.

To add to that: if countries like Russia actually can influence US elections by manipulating platforms like Facebook....what does that say about the influence companies like Facebook have themselves?

The Mueller Report instead uncovered the collusion between Trump and Israel.

Blairite? How dare you! I'll have you know that Paul Mason is a commited communist, no wait, commited socialist, no wait, socialist realist, hang on, leftist-NAFOist with spice-taking characteristics. You can joke about his Pepe Silva enemies of the state mind map all you like, but the only three true working class white blokes he still drinks with from his Trot days thought it sounded important and I'll have you know that an admin worker for MI5 sent him a polite email saying they appriciated him sending it in but it wasn't what they were looking for and to keep trying. That's basically the same as making him the new James Bond right there! People are just bitter because he was the first to correctly identify that the best route to a worldwide socialist unity is to back Starmer and insist he immeadiately starts a nuclear war with Russia for the good of the global working glass. He might be the next foreign secretary! After all he only just missed out on getting onto one of six different 5-9 person shortlists to stand as a Labour MP in various constituancies. He's a valuable and important political operater, which is why the Labour leadership respected him too much not to beg him to please not go canvassing and campaigning in Islington North for fear that he'd make it too easy for them to get rid of Corbyn and they'd look vindictive when all they wish him is the best. And even if you're one of these too cool for school jaded fake online leftists that doesn't believe in 'electoralism' (i.e. power) then he's once again about to prove his lifelong anti-fascist credentials by putting the hard questions to our brave comrades from the Ukrainian military who spend every day of this conflict on the front lines of the defense industry convention circuit, like 'what's your favourite Putin meme' and 'what's your favourite memory from your time in Tornado Battalion?' Time to grow up, be more like him, and do some actual real political praxis.

tag yourself, I'm "campists"

Yea, comparatively, the ClA funded racial terrorist stabbings and bombings in China and even that completely failed compared to "Tumblr Russian bots"

I remember several studies, all the ones done by firms that weren't getting paid by the DNC, showed that the actual impact of Russian bot farms was actually very minuscule. If you ever checked any of the linked posts that came from the bot farms you'd often see engagement often in the hundreds to low thousands. Nothing that was as widespread as the MSM reported.

Liberals would much rather demonize a huge percentage of their intended base than actually admit that they suck ass on their own merits

"This pernicious water keeps seeping into my boat through all these holes"

"In that case are you going to repair the holes, or at least stop drilling more?"

"How much is Water paying you you fucking bot shill"

Trotsky invented racism.

Know your lore.

It's old hat to say at this point, but imagine if libs were this worked up over the 2000 elections

I spend some time on curatedtumblr and tumblr. 90% of the posts are nonpolitical and fine, 5% are political and lukewarm, 3% are "not voting for Biden means you literally want every single trans person in the country to die!" which is just boring at this point, and 2% are actually vaguely interesting bad takes