"it's just an el nino year" I repeat to myself with increasing nervousness for the second year in a row
this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2024
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Same. I was terrified when I realized all this last year.
"I told you dawg" doesn't feel as satisfying when the thing you were right about is a looming mass extinction
problem with "i told you so" in this situation is that we will all be dead by the time it's possible to say "i told you so"
We are already at the "I told you so". And no offense to everyone here, but I'd kick you off the gang-band if that's all you bring to the table. Get in line genius.
the problem with "I told you so" is the response is "natural earth cycles"
There's this fucked up part of me that finds graphs like this comforting, that this will make the problem, and more importantly the liberal world's mismanagement of it, impossible to ignore. Logically I don't think about it that way. I felt the same way about COVID and the BLM movement but those didn't turn out how I had hoped. Emotionally I guess I have an accelerationist streak lol
I assure you there is already an excuse for why this graph is wrong.
NPR filled me in.
There was an underwater volcanic eruption that caused a temporary spike in the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere and this problem will go away once it precipitates back out again. Nothing to worry about! 🤓
for the first time ever earth has exhibited geothermic activity, and it won't happen again of course
It should be BBR.
Back to Brunch Radio
Or here's why it's good that temperatures keep going up
We'll grow oranges in Alaska
(Without any of that "science" that let the soviets do the same)
Every time the weather goes out of whack, some huge torrential storm or freak wildfire, people (particularly chuds who think climate change is a hoax) will be quick to say it's weather modification or HAARP or some shit.
We're all going to feel silly when we find out that haarp was secretly a 3 mile long f-350 that's been rolling coal since the 70s. : (
Or their Iron-age brains will just say it's God's wrath, and the only way to appease Him is to sacrifice some of those vulnerable minorities they hate so much. The realization of that possibility is starting to creep in for me.
I see this a lot on tik tok. It'd be funny if it wasn't so fucking scary.
This hurricane season is going to be a doozy
I don't want to sweat to death, I want to freeze to death instead 
Can someone with climate science knowledge help out with the following hypothesis:
Let’s say the US wants to engineer a nuclear war in the Middle East to “cool” the global temperature for a determined period of time. This can be done by provoking Israel to use its nukes in a “last stand” as it is being militarily defeated by the regional forces, as an example.
According to the climate model proposed by Robock et al. (2007), a regional nuclear conflict in the subtropics that detonated 100 Hiroshima-size (15 kt) nuclear weapons (0.03% of the global nuclear arsenal) could lead to a release of 5 Tg of smoke into the atmosphere, resulting in global climate change of -1 degree Celcius (which would revert the global temperature, at least transiently, back to the Little Ice Age period between 1400s and 1800s, and would also result in significant changes to precipitation rate, crop growth etc.).
Guess what, Israel/Palestine is located exactly within the subtropical band.
Let’s say several hundred millions of people die from the nuclear fallout (far away from the Imperial Core), and hundreds of millions more die to starvation due to crops failure, the global temperature goes down, the global population gets trimmed, reducing demand for global resources, the imperialists subsequently take advantage of the chaos and instability resulted to harvest the capital assets in the Global South.
Is this something that would be dreamed up by the bourgeois class in the Western imperial core?
engineer a nuclear war
Is this something that would be dreamed up by the bourgeois class in the Western imperial core?
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Is this something that would be dreamed up by the bourgeois class in the Western imperial core
Maybe, not because it would be effective though
resulting in global climate change of -1 degree Celcius (which would revert the global temperature, at least transiently, back to the Little Ice Age period between 1400s and 1800s
We're already 1.1 c above preindustrial levels, so -1c from 5 tg just brings us back to 1850
This modelling covers a longer timeframe and other forecast impacts
Thanks. I was thinking this more from a perspective of the declining US empire using the vast power it has keep “exporting” the suffering to the Global South to buy themselves another decade of time, not that it would be a viable solution in the long term (“viable” here includes killings hundreds of millions in the process and screwing up the ecology).
thank you this cursed theory will now be in my head as shit intensifies in the middle east
this Project Plowshare remake sucks
This theory is horribly cursed but I do not think they could carry it out without their usual hubs sounding off about it. The thinktanks and the various people of influence. They all do this through various channels.
If it were being seriously considered I do not think they could hide it as efficiently as is necessary. It would have to be the effort of like a very small group of 10-15 people otherwise and that group would have to include generals that would carry it out, the president, and several completely deranged neoliberal ghouls.
Israel does not have enough nuclear weapons to do this by itself either. Israel has an estimated 90 nuclear weapons and to be frank I think that's a high estimate. This idea would rely on someone else also firing nukes. The only possible partner is the US. But if the US fires nukes in conjunction with Israel it is burning itself on the world stage forever afterwards. People worldwide will not treat it like Japan.
It is very cursed, but I can’t help noticing the mainstream media pushing to normalize nuclear escalations in recent months.
This CSIS analysis from 2009 suggests that Israel does have more than enough yield in its nuclear arsenal to achieve the simulated impact. The climate model referenced above only needed 100 15-kiloton nukes (1.5 Megaton total) to achieve the effect of releasing 5 Tg of smoke into the atmosphere. According to the CSIS report, a single Jericho II ballistic missile alone can carry a 1000kg warhead of 1 Megaton yield. And that’s just a single warhead. So, probably 1-2 big nuclear explosions (or a dozen of smaller ones) are enough to irreversibly affect the global climate.
The difficult (and unbelievable) part of this hypothesis is how can they contain the nuclear explosions regionally and not allowing it to escalate out of hand towards a global thermonuclear war.
The difficult (and unbelievable) part of this hypothesis is how can they contain the nuclear explosions regionally and not allowing it to escalate out of hand towards a global thermonuclear war.
I think the obvious answer would be to egg on a situation where an exchange would be between a nuclear power and a non-nuclear power.
how can they contain the nuclear explosions regionally and not allowing it to escalate out of hand
the solution is clear, you just have to think (much) dumber and refocus from nuclear war as an excuse to the core of "exploding nukes will lower the global temperature"
Greenwashing Nuclear Weapons: USA paying countries to let them explode nukes in the desert to save the climate
Israel does not have enough nuclear weapons to do this by itself either.
Then again, It would be very on brand under-doing it so we just get nuclear fallout and radiation instead of the intended effect. Egged on by Christian Fascist/Zionists death drive, evangelical rapture prophesies and climate change denialists desperate to keep their treats. They already accepted that 100s of millions will die from climate change, what's a few 10s of millions more.
Remember that we live in the dumbest timeline.
Nuclear winter isn't science. Climate Satellite imaging has shown that even the largest ash clouds fall back to the ground in around 2 months and there is no reason that bigger smoke clouds will fall slower.
Israel was on its way to detonate a nuke in the air over Iran but Russia shot down their F22.
uh, uh, those sea surface temperatures were all taken in a hot parking lot right next to an A/C unit!
The cybertruck will fix this, just watch.
God, I really need to get my ass in gear, so I can make enough money to speculate on arctic property.
thats good right
Here’s the up to date version: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
tl;dr: still hot
We almost got some crossover action!
Almost
Finally Greenland rare earths will be mine and the Golden Space Nugget will be delayed another century!
