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I trust Trump about as far as I can throw him, and at the end of the day it's really the Pentagon calling the shots here not the POTUS.
But dudes clearly speaking to a public sentiment here.
Biden and the Dems are so bloodthirsty that Trump is the nominal antiwar position. I hate this fucking place
Trump is the nominal antiwar position
Trump isn't anti-war, or at least I don't trust him to be actually anti-war. He's anti-this-war, but his administration did plenty of hawkish shit towards Iran and Venezuela. I'm not even confident he'll actually do anything to deescalate in Ukraine, I think it's all bluster.
not to mention he ramped up drone strikes 400% more than obama
one of the few things I'm willing to give Biden credit for - he stopped the drone strikes
same here. and I have never heard a liberal mention it
Did he really, or did he just change who's using them?
Your counterpoint was valid when the Saudis were bombing Yemen, but ever since that wound down, there are legit less bombings.
Still not voting Biden, but I just believe in giving credit where it's due.
After Soleimani was killed and a war was nearly started with Iran in January 2020, there was still an “oh shit” moment from the Trump government and they quickly walked back and prevented a war from being escalated.
At the very least, you can still argue that Trump was duped by his advisors into thinking that assassinating a “rogue general” can solve the Iran problem.
You cannot look at Ukraine and say that the Biden administration has ever come close to a moment of wanting to “walk back”. For 2.5 years, knowing that 500k people have been killed, they still want to fight it to the last Ukrainian. At every turn there is only escalation - sending more and more weapons to Ukraine, long-range missiles to kill civilians within Russian borders, taking out their anti-ballistic missile warning system, threatening about a nuclear war with Russia. These people are insane.
Not that Trump can change anything at this point. It is far too late. Even if he is president, he cannot stop the war that is already in motion, because too much financial interests from the bourgeoisie are now tied to the Ukraine war at this point.
Trump's actions are often just attempts to satisfy his ego through positive media and supporter reaction. The issue with Iran if you recall is that his main supporter at the time, Fox news had a mixed reaction, with Tucker Carlson being extremely critical, something obviously like hell freezing over.
You can go and check back on the entire Carlson arc back then but here for example Fox's Tucker Carlson slammed conservatives for pushing Trump to go to war: 'About 20 minutes ago we were denouncing these very people as the deep state'
His base didn't particularly like that idea, he was MAGA and isolationist and yet he was about to put the US into a war with a nobody-country that wasn't a threat at the time. It wasn't Bush post 9/11 even though he thought that was an easy win.
As soon as the base consolidated into the neutral/negative camp which he didn't expect, he backed off. Right now his base is very much positive towards ending "Biden's war" so he is very likely to do it.
But his base also doesn't like China so that will be the next target.
At the very least, you can still argue that Trump was duped by his advisors into thinking that assassinating a “rogue general” can solve the Iran problem.
Thing is, if that's the case he can probably be duped again.
After Soleimani was killed and a war was nearly started with Iran in January 2020, there was still an “oh shit” moment from the Trump government and they quickly walked back and prevented a war from being escalated.
Is that because he's genuinely anti-war or cuz some Brass at the Pentagon thought it wasn't an opportune time to start shit with Iran and told him to cool it?
Really at the end of the day I don't think it matters, the PSL could win this Presidential race and it wouldn't change a thing foreign policy wise (and probably not much domestically either), those aren't decisions any elected leader has any meaningful sway over.
I am not saying Trump is anti-war, I am saying that Biden continues to escalate a war for 2.5 years knowing that hundreds of thousands if not millions will be thrown into a meat grinder.
You cannot even attribute that to “we made a mistake, we shouldn’t have started this war” (low bar, but a bar nonetheless), because if so they would have made every attempt to stop it from continuing. Instead, they personally flew to Ukraine and tore up the peace negotiations Ukraine was undergoing with Russia. They really want to fight this to the last Ukrainian. And that’s scary if you think about it.
In doing so, they've signed the death warrant for their own credibility as an ally.
You aligned with the US/NATO explicitly because they were a big, strong military and economic partner, who could provide deterrence, and if that failed, prevent you from losing the war.
This alliance will deliver Ukraine less-than-zero benefit: they'll still lose the war, but being propped up and egged on means it will take longer, be bloodier and more destructive, and leave them with more debt.
Perhaps the "deterrence" factor was limited because they weren't Core NATO and there was no Article 5 trigger risk. It still suggests there's no value in cozying up to the institution if you can't qualify for full membership, and even then, would they really pull out all the stops for a new member of low value?
Is that because he's genuinely anti-war or cuz some Brass at the Pentagon thought it wasn't an opportune time to start shit with Iran and told him to cool it?
16 or so ballisic missiles pounded the Al Assad Airforcebase and did "Only Braindamage + some later death" to some 100 soldiers.. while the USA had Nothing to respond ,even just verbally to respond with some stupid" Though talk" at this moment would have forced Iran to preempty flatten all the Other bases they have there (they nervously shoot down a hole airliner, so they where extremly on edge) ... So Imagine there was a collective experiance of "Oh Fuck oh Fuck+ we are Powerless" in the Command center or whatever.. Thats some experiance that produces wisedom ...
same with Orban vs EU
The problem with Trump is not that he can't read the room. On the contrary, that's part of the problem. The room is filled with transphobic, military thumping, chauvinist, xenophobic, treat gobbling bullshit.
Gee, why doesn't he feel the same about Palestine? 
Trump knows how to read the room, and ending the war in Ukraine is a rewarding grift. Ending the genocide in Palestine is not nearly as rewarding
Because AIPAC lobbying (money laundering) works on both Democrats and Republicans. War in Israel/Palestine is good for both sides of the ruling class.
Ukraine is different. It is strongly tied to the Democratic Party and the Biden family (note Hunter Biden’s involvement) which essentially allows the Biden Democrats to unlock a “cheat code” that blatantly pumps $175 billion (so far) for Ukraine in just 2 years, as long as the majority of the people are sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause, and which are ultimately laundered back to the pockets of Democratic politicians and their proxies, as well as the military industrial complexes, oil and gas industries and financial companies that have pledged their loyalty to the Bidens, as a treat.
This is why Trump and the Republicans want to end the war in Ukraine, and why they are so keen on crucifying Hunter Biden. The Republicans are getting beat at the avenues that give away treats to the bourgeoisie. It is simply more profitable to align with the Democrats and gain access to the Ukraine gravy train.
This is also why the Biden campaign has been propping up Hunter lately - him persuading Joe Biden to keep running, attending White House meetings with Joe, etc. - to signal that even if Joe’s mental ability has far degraded, Hunter’s still there to make sure that the promises of treats to the Biden Patreon supporters will be fulfilled.
Our big wet boy is a huge zionist
Love when every Republican president for the past fifty years is ideologically to biden's left
edit: they're right, Bush is the only exception (and still to Biden's left on border and immigration policy)
every Republican president for the past fifty years is ideologically to biden's left
Lets not overstate things, 
was a fucking monster, probably worse than Trump and Biden.
Oops all genocidal war criminals!
Not probably, he was
Yeah on second thought, he's def worse than both, probably worse than both combined depending on how you calculate that.
come on, don't forget the oil man 
Senator Biden supported the Iraq attack 2003 and signed off on bunches of his legislation
I always wonder how instrumental W was to the invasion plan. Not to hand it to him at all, but he always seemed just not interested in being president let alone personally make the invasion a reality.
Yeah we really memory holed who may genuinely have been the most evil US president of all time, and that's a pretty fucking serious competition
Trump was already president and his foreign policy was pretty bad. He threw Rojavah to Turkey and was trying hard to start a war with Iran, assassinated Soleimani, and people just forgot about that when the pandemic started. He tried to coup Venezuela for 
, remember that pathetic boat thing where they all got caught immediately? Remember the Bolivian coup that Amerikkka was almost certainly involved in?
Yeah but see that's comparatively GOOD foreign policy, just a list of failures except for assassinating that guy
Biden also has had a ton of failures. Assassinating Soleimani easily could've started a war that would've killed hundreds of thousands, we really don't need to hand it to him.
He threw Rojavah to Turkey
To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, to be her ally is fatal
And yet Biden is still worse
We need an emoji of this with Trump's hair photoshopped on with how often this happens.
A quick and dirty version
Biden and any other POTUS runs US Imperialism by the playbook. Trump will not change US Imperialism, but he does disrupt it and panics the deep state (Industrialists and the MIC), I don't think any other POTUS would've gone to the DPRK
Still paint me skeptical he would really do any meaningful damage.
Whatever I ain't voting for either of them.
We have a saying on Vulcan: Only Nixon can go to China, and only Trump can go to the DPRK