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That's it. Our instance requires us to stop responding if you explicitly ask us to. It's right here buried in our Code of Conduct

Any discussions may be opted out of by disengaging.

In the past, this rule has only applied to the specific user you say it to. I'd like to suggest going forward that if someone on another instance uses it, we treat it as applying to all of us.

Unfortunately this rule wasn't communicated clearly before, so I'm making this post for visibility.

Edit: As the comments clarify, this has to be done in good faith, typically just a one word "disengage" comment. If you add more stuff to the discussion and then say "disengage" at the end, you're not disengaging, it's a way to put a stop to a toxic argument not to get the last word in.

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

You do have to actually disengage though, to be clear. No "I disengage, but also [fuck you, x,y,z, trying to get the last word]". If you're disengaging, it has to be mutually respected.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago

The usual format is (wall of rage text) then "therefore I disengage." smuglord

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

[–] macabrett@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait a second I know how to stop you

Disengage, Mike

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Type "disengage" and then just posting a continuation of the rant on a different person's post entirely as a bit.

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[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

inhales 1984 CHINA BAD VUVUZELA NO IPHONE

Disengage

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] city_watch@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“Hey tankie, DISENGAGE”

smuglord

ooooooooooooooh

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Libs when they find out that they also have to stop talking: agony-shivering

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[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (9 children)

imo i feel like the disengage rule should really only apply amongst comrades. it will just be used to silence us otherwise and the libs have plenty of ways to do that without us handing them another

plus giving the libs a magic debate-winning word seems like it validates their worldview a bit too much, idk

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You're acting like libs will actually read the rules before engaging though.

And the debate pervert types would never use a "stop talking to me now" option. They live off of the attention they get for being obnoxious.

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This came up as an alternative to blocking when we lacked a block feature. Since everybody has a block feature now, it probably just makes sense to use that, though there are cases where it is preferable to just tell someone to drop it instead of blocking them. Anyway, it is still the rule.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tbh if you blocked everyone that was ever annoying on hexbear this site would be a ghost town lmao

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[–] FuckYourselfEndless@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

I'm a 3rd gen Hexbear and we've evolved to not have this trait.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes! Great note for our new federated friends!

Additionally, the admins have clarified that this is not a free "get the last word" trick either though, so it doesn't count if you go "hey I want to disengage and also here's why you're a doodoo head"

Frankly, most people on other instances have seemed either content to ignore us (and optionally make inaccurate complaints behind our backs), or just as eager to get into a slapfight as our users, so idk if it will make a huge difference, but this will get us to leave you alone if you are in that scenario, and if it doesn't can be reported to our mods/admins

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This won't work in startrek.website folks. They're all about engage.

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[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (20 children)

That's not what that means - it means if you don't want to argue with us, just stop arguing with us.

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[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Liberals after posting disengage:

smuglord checkmate tankies

Nazis after posting disengage:

wall-talk

guys it says in your own rules that you have to disengage, and you keep on posting the fucking picture of the pig with the

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[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Russian bots: walter-breakdown

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is dumb. There's basically no scenario where this would be used in good faith.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (9 children)

You seem to be the only person who cares about this, Zuzak. This is a rule that to my knowledge has never been mentioned or enforced. I didn't even know we had rules until last week and I've been here the whole three years. Pulling this out as a "gotcha" that everyone has to abide by because it's in a document no one knew existed, that is never or nearly never referenced, and that in no way guides or informs site culture is not helpful or productive.

If anything, we should be discussing revising the site rules to reflect current practice, now that some people know they exist.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

comments get removed & people have been banned for pursuing an argument after one user has 'disengaged'. you've really never seen this? it is in the rules, and i think there was even a clarification at a later date regarding people who'd say 'disengage' but continue the argument for the last word.

i guess it's fortunate you've never been in a shit-flinging hostile enough it's been needed but this is by no means a new rule or one that's gone unused/appreciated

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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

It's the rule, and it always has been if you want it to changed, talk to the mods, I don't have the power to change it even if I wanted to (I don't).

is not helpful or productive.

I saw a blahaj user post a link to this in defense of staying federated in their thread, so I beg to differ.

Not to mention, you just said you hadn't heard of it, now you have. Sounds like the post was necessary then.

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Stop screaming “disengage” at me, I don’t know what that word means and I will never stop posting

[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

I DO NOT WISH TO CREATE JOINDER WITH YOU

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thats why i play rogue and can disengage as a bonus action

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the past, this rule has only applied to the specific user you say it to. I'd like to suggest going forward that if someone on another instance uses it, we treat it as applying to all of us.

Gonna be hard to get this since I don't think most of us are down for reading a 200-1000 comment thread before commenting when the disengage request might be buried somewhere in it.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

The corollary is that bad faith disengages don't count as disengages.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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