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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 116 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They can move to the U.S. and then pay tariffs to import the parts, and have a smaller international demand for the product do to retaliatory tariffs and just straight avoidance of U.S. products while making their product in a higher cost to operate area. OR they can build a mine, pay higher lifting costs, higher wages, produce a much more expensive product of shitty quality to keep the price hopefully low enough that they can still have a demand for the product abroad, but everyone will coorelate their American products as shit because they cut corners to try to keep the costs low enough while having higher expenses. So no one wants their product. Or they could not cut corners and make a great product that costs so much that their market shrinks down to inoperable levels and go out of business.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 2 months ago

You’re not getting it. He said it in ALL CAPS, so the globally-connected economy doesn’t actually exist. Tariffs punish BAD GUYS and have no effect on GOOD GUYS. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 107 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”

Professor William T. Kelley, who taught marketing at the Wharton School of Business and Finance when the orange one was a student there (source)

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He also doesn't read. Ever. The only book he is known to possess (a gift) is one with speeches by Hitler. He probably hasn't even read that one. He had also real trouble reading the teleprompter during the campaign trail and seemingly ignored it most of the time.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I read that too. Not the president the US needed, as he is simply unsuitable for this office due to his lack of education alone, but apparently the one the country deserves, as he was elected despite everything everyone can and should know about him.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Over half of US citizens can't read over a sixth grade level. So he really does represent a majority of US Americans in that regard.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, there’s a LOT of evidence that Trump is functionally illiterate. He just scrapes by with telling people he doesn’t have time to read, or having people read things for him.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, sure. Spend billions on moving factories to a xenophobic, undereducated, and burgeoning fascist society instead of expanding into more stable, emerging markets without an unstable fuckwit for a leader.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's exactly what happened with China

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Yeah because it was cheaper labor. The US does not have that level of cheap labor.

[–] GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have that level YET.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 2 months ago

That's also not how that works. China can get away with having cheap labor because it also has cheap cost of living. But the cost of living in the US is ridiculously high. These tariffs are only going to make the cost of living go up.

[–] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Possibly however unlikely.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

Yeah they need to move their forests and mines to the USA!

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh, so immigrants are ok if they're companies?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought companies were considered people in the US

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Caucasian people though. So it's okay.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Immigrants are okay if they're rich.

And white

Preferably Russian and and oligarch.

Or South African

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

his audience wouldn't notice the issue with this claim

[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Mainly because they are SO SO SO fucking dumb.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude, they did, under Biden's IRA. The one you just tore up.

Jesus, dude. This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.

Putin: perfect!

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago

Or they can just stop providing products and services to america and expand in Asia, Europe and Australia

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I thought he was against immigration.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Lol... that's insanely hilarious.... or is it hilariously insane? I can't keep track with this nut job

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does he really think businesses pay the tariffs? I doubt it

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

He knows they don't but he doesn't have to pay them and he couldn't bring himself to care about anyone else.

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[–] sasquatch7704@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

When your president failed ~~law school~~ kindergarden.

Here, corrected that for you

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He means he'll drop tariffs in companies start building here. Problem is, factory owners aren't stupid enough to invest in a factory that will become obsolete when these idiot tariffs are dropped.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Even if I had absolute confidence that the tariffs weren't going to get dropped there would still be no point moving a factory to the US because you would still end up paying the tariffs to get imports of components from China. Because you are definitely getting your components from China.

That's why tariffs have to be used with tact and they only target very precise items. If you want to increase the number of televisions produced in the United States you only have a tariff on completed televisions, not on displays, and not on microcontrollers. The Trump tariffs are on everything though.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Tariffs do not work.

Even if you just target one item, like this moron did with washing machines 8 years ago, what happened?

Imported washing machines went up 25% in price.

Domestically produces machines went up 25%, because why wouldn't they gauge more money??

Tariffs only hurt the consumer.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

The Trump tariffs are on everything though.

Yeah, he has a tendency to just take a shotgun approach, and later see what sticks. He won't care about any fallout caused by his approach.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well naturally, if all the companies move to the US, there won't be tariffs because there won't be trade. With the way the US is going these days, I'm wondering if the US might come to the companies instead

[–] Kimmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Failed law school? He failed elementary school

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

If the rest of the western powers divest amd braindrain from the US, can they afford to upkeep their nuclear arsenal?

[–] bunnyjenkins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

If the tariffs work, then how are tariffs going to fund the government? Seems like a lie

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

He actually thinks companies can say "hey, let's move all our shit to the US!" and they can snap their fingers and they're instantly here. Like they don't have to buy land, build factories, setup supply chains and work out logistics that would take a long time to do. Fucking moron.

Dumbass didn't learn from the Foxconn shit in Wisconsin lol

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

IF US COMPANIES HAVE NO MATERIALS, THERE ARE NO JOBS.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Walking advertisement for Wharton.

[–] thefrozenorth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem are the shit-talkers. There are so many advisers talking shit to Trump and he's just repeating it. There's more shit coming out of his mouth than there is in his diaper - and there's alot of shit in his diaper. Trump may be dumb, but he's still the best politician in america. He reads a room and gets his message across better than anyone. Too bad he's a rapist, misogynistic, convicted criminal. And so easily influenced by Putin and the Evangelicals. If you want to know what Trump is doing an why, look at the goals and methods of these two.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is his idea of a school in the first place.

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