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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 113 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He said a lot of other good stuff too IMO.

Finally someone taking the russian and slso the american threat seriously.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

UK has typically bowed to US.

France may our only Security Council Veto hope.

[–] Daniel55@feddit.nl 36 points 3 months ago

Bowed? I think its more of a strategy, to try to win the Americans back, act as a bridge. IMO it is too late. But even if it is only a 1% chance, its worth it. Meanwhile UK is investing in defense, standing by allies and being unwavering in its support for Ukraine.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (10 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

FYI the EU is not about military, only about economics.

The UK has made the recent JEF with sweden and others for example, so no problem joining up militarily.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

The EU is both. There are EU joint battlegroups and a stronger mutual defense clause in the treaties than NATO.

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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 64 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'd like to see him in Von der Leyen's job once she's out.

[–] _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can't take her seriously, the EU needs a strong face and she's not doing it for me. This isn't a woman VS man thing, I thought Merkel was tougher than Scholz to be fair.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago

It's mostly a she's-corrupt-and-shouldn't-hold-any-public-office thing.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

VdL was the Defense Minister in charge when the German military lost several subs to lack of maintenance from their ultimately not so big fleet in the first place.

She is definitely not the person who should be there, as she seems more interested in pushing through Chat Control than doing any kind of serious policy on Russia.

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 58 points 3 months ago (13 children)

I would definitely be in favor of France taking the US's place on the world stage. They're a more appropriate leader of the free world anyway

[–] troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hm, I don’t think there’s such a thing as an “appropriate leader of the free world”. (Not even talking about how problematic the notion of “the free world” is.) We’re in this mess because one country has this much power over the rest of us. Replacing it with another (I’m saying this hypothetically, because France is in no position to gain as much power as the US anyway) doesn’t solve the problem.

Also, and I’m saying this as a French person, France has its issues, even though they’re not as cataclysmically bad as the United States’s problems right now. The far right is getting a lot stronger here too (as in many other countries) and I’m frankly worried about the future. Many people here are fighting against this, and I hope we can turn the tide somehow, but... never depend on one country.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, 2 countries should be world leaders. Moldova and Romania

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Kazakhstan would like a word. They are a number one exporter of potassium. Also other countries are run by little girls.

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[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They should oopsie whoopsie give Ukraine one. Seems fair since Ukraine only gave theirs up in exchange for American protection.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just having one would be more dangerous then having none. It's not enough for actual deterrence but it is enough for Russia to "justify" using its arsenal against them.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 months ago

Oops, here's a couple dozen, looks like we mistakenly labeled a shipment.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trying to imagine doing the Cuban Missile Crisis but we're replacing Castro, Kennedy, and Khrushchev with Zelenskyy, Macron, and Putin.

What could go wrong?

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

Say it fell out of the plane.

The Americans have lost a few over the years.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nothing has to change as long as France is willing to end the world for Finland and Russia believes they'll do it.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

Frogs being based as always.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Us too plz?

I'm sure we'll give you guys whatever you want in return, shit's getting really scary here in Canada.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We have a good chunk of the technology. We should eventually build our own. After all, India built their nuclear weapons from Canadian tech.

On May 18, 1974, India shocked the world by conducting a test A-Bomb explosion it called 'Smiling Buddha. ' The nuclear explosive was plutonium, obtained from a 'peaceful' research reactor – a gift from the Canadian government in 1956.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but proliferation is bad, basically. The more nations have nukes the harder it is to not use them.

That being said, we already have the CANDU reactors in Ontario churning out plutonium that we just bury. I've heard it estimated we could have bombs in like 3 months if we wanted.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone working in the field, that's what makes everything happening the biggest US policy blunder ever. The NPT is dead in the water and it was completely preventable.

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They'll take Quebec off you.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not as big an ask as you're probably thinking. In the end, they've always (just barely) voted to stay for the convenience. If we were to join the Schengen area and the single market going forward, and maybe even the EU itself, it wouldn't really be a problem if they were technically a separate nation within it.

It was a "shotgun marriage" by the colonial British in the first place, and as far as I can tell enthusiasm for the arrangement was never that high among ordinary Anglo Canadians, either. I hear "they should just leave so we never have to talk about it again" semi-often IRL.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I know there probably would not be that many issues with it but I was proposing it as a joke.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought they already had a warning shot doctrine.

https://youtu.be/gFmuj7E5GwA

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Also, Putin has been sabre-rattling for years, so the debate has kind of already been ongoing.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Provide cover to Greenland.

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