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[–] Imperor@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (14 children)

This AR obsession is utterly baffling to me. There are so few real applications and the hardware requirements are insane so it's not something that will get widely adapted anyway. Sure in a decade or so it might have matured enough to have shed all these issues, but AR/VR feels like a really out of touch thing to prusue, especially if you look at the garbage ideas they have on how to use it - virtual meetings??

I get movies and games on these, possibly even some recording and porn, but these are not their B2B wet dreams anyway.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I’d really just like some glasses that simulate multiple monitors without needing special software. That’s all I want

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

Yep, and that seems to be the route Apple was going. Screens you can place anywhere in your visual field.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Gotta need some insane resolution for that right? And 1000hz refresh to make things good I guess.

I mean for text editing, coding etc.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yep I've played with virtual monitors in VR space and I don't even like watching movies on them, the loss in resolution and the way the dynamic aspect of it (using a moving screen to simulate a static screen) makes it a shitty solution. Eventually it'll be good enough to watch TV in but I can't imagine doing serious work in it.

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[–] osef897@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

overlaying ads on literally everything could be the end goal.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

This AR obsession is utterly baffling to me.

  • It's a mobile phone you don't need to hold.

  • It's a mobile phone that never goes in your pocket.

  • It's a mobile phone that is always on and has access to everything you see and hear.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a fucking nightmare, but a wet dream to Big Tech.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s a bummer than those sound like bad things simply because corporate abuse is always a forgone conclusion. If your data was truly private and always entirely under your control and ONLY your control, those would be really attractive features.

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[–] IllNess 48 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Being able to keep a screen in front of the user at all times is the goal. This is one step closer to replacing the eyes Cyberpunk style.

This is why Siri and Apple Intelligence is so important to Apple, getting away an actual keyboard will make this more addicting. They can decide what to show you before you even start thinking about it!

Corporations would love being able to not only know where you are at all times, but now they have the tech to see exactly what you see!

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (12 children)

it’s not that complicated, the goal is to create another hit product that everyone wants like the ipod and iphone.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's a gag in Futurama about ads being displayed in your dreams. If that were possible they'd be doing that, but right now they're settling for just the waking hours.

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[–] PlantPowerPhysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Next courageous Apple creation:

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[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think the fundamental problem with the AR glasses is something that can't be overcome.

I think its easy to see the utility to owning a pair of glasses that look good and provide real time information as desired for what you are looking at or hearing.

HOWEVER, I think very few people will want the product these co.panies will make. This will be a method to throw ads literally in front of your eyeballs. Enshitification is too big of a thing now and so any new product is tainted by the expectation it will rapidly turn to garbage at a high price to you.

Also, while we may think we can be trusted, we dont trust anyone else having all that info, I dont like the obvious privacy implications that these can present. Filming with them is also terrifying.

[–] YouAreLiterallyAnNPC@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, just to be clear, that 'something that can't be overcome' is.. checks notes capitalism?

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 27 points 2 months ago

And I care zero about ever purchasing those things.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good, I wanna see Apple flop just like Meta's VR nonsense did.

[–] REDACTED 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Why do you people hate VR?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is Quest a flop? Or are you talking about something else?

Bot quest and ray band products are huge success dominating their respective markets.

I really wish people were more serious about these markets so it can be done well from the get got rather than starting to be fixed and regulated 2 decades later.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Having borrowed a quest 3 last week I’ve almost pulled trigger on buying one.

The only thing holding me back is.. it’s Meta.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

There are a lot of things at Apple that I, as the paying customer, would rather Cook care more about than AR/VR boondoggles.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Guess what Tim Apple? No one wants them just like no one wanted your stupid headset that I honestly can't even remember what it was called.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well I do want this, augmented/virtual reality is exactly the kind of shit I dreamt about as a kid during the 90's, and having a huge screen available anywhere I go is pretty fucking cool.

But yeah, I used a VR headset exactly once for like 5 minutes, and there's no way in hell I'd buy one from meta or apple. If Valve releases good XR/AR glasses I might consider it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It sounds cool in theory, but modern tech companies aren't going to make what you wanted as a kid. Whatever they make will be heavily enshittified.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I love VR and have multiple devices but the platforms are still really bad. There's so much jank amplified by all of the greed by Apple and Meta. For example on Apple's VR device you can't have multiple users - they were so greedy that they thought they'd sell multiple devices per household.

Can't wait for Valves Deckard or whatever next VR project they're working on. Steamdeck is everything a handheld should be and if they can finally nail that in VR it would be awesome.

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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Google already made AR glasses and they failed. Not because the product was bad, but because AR is stupid and has such a niche case that it's practically worthless.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's the smartwatch bullshit all over again.

1 in 10 have one

9 in 10 don't care and never did

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wdym lol smartwatches are everywhere now.

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[–] maki@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

This is just another attempt to capture even more control over our attention - advertising everywhere. Of course Apple wants it

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Classic Tim Apple.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's a CEO's job to care about all aspects of the company he is supposed to lead.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I would love to have a good pair of ar glasses to play games on my Steam Deck with. Connect a controller, and not have to hold up the heavy Deck itself.

But given Apple's propensity for walled gardens and lock-in, and Meta putting manipulative spyware into everything they make, these hypothetical glasses won't be coming from either of those companies.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I've got prosaspoagnosia, I just want them to display little name tags under the faces of people that I know.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Does anyone even want AR glasses? I don't.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

yes, not from apple though. That's a guarantee they would be useless for a tinkerer

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Boringgggg, do another trick apple.

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[–] Khuda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

A reality distortion field that seperates a person from the real world? What could go wrong?

It's about as dystopian as it gets.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You don't have to strap the internet to someone's face to distort their reality with it, as demonstrated by... Well, gestures broadly

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Honestly, this is probably the next game changing tech. There are lot of uses for AR. Size, style, and battery life are probably the biggest issues to overcome.

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