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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Women fought for the right to wear pants. Men haven't put in the effort yet for the right to wear skirts.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And there are still those, who stigmatize women for not wearing skirts.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago

idk how we fucked up, I blame Victorian England. Men used to be able to wear dresses and skirts without any issues, and then we decided to strictly adhere to suits. I wish I could find tunics still in stores.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

♂ + 👗 = 🏳️‍🌈

BUT

♂ + 👗 + 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 = 👌

[–] ingeniosissimo@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If:
♂ + 👗 = 🏳️‍🌈

And:
♂ + 👗 + 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 = 👌

Then:
🏳️‍🌈 + 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 = 👌

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Can confirm.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't forget 🇮🇳🇵🇰🇮🇩🇱🇰🇱🇦🇹🇭🇰🇭🇸🇦🇧🇩🇲🇻🇴🇲🇸🇴🇾🇪🇦🇪🇮🇶🇰🇼🇧🇭🇶🇦🇩🇯🇪🇹🇪🇷🇼🇸🇫🇯 and probably a bunch I've missed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhoti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izaar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_skirt

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

3rd column: god I hope so..

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

(they are slim pants)

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

You forgot the third and most hetero of categories: the short

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It wasn't that long ago that women wearing pants was considered to be wrong. Wome used to be arrested in the US for wearing pants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers_as_women's_clothing#United_States_and_Europe

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had to fight my own father for the right to wear pants growing up. And you see people online today who still argue that women shouldn't be "allowed" to wear pants.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I can't keep my dick in my pants when I see the shape of a woman's crotch and it's your fault"

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Oh there was a lot of that when I was growing up. My Dad was a big fan of Rush Limbaugh.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's completely arbitrary how clothing got associated to gender over the course of history.

I remember numerous instances where skirts were seen as manly, iirc the scottish and the romans had that notion. I think pants as we have them today were only introduced around 1800? Because they are more difficult to manufacture and were developed mostly for blue-collar workers as protective clothing.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The northern "barbarians" wore pants even in roman times. The romans were agast (TBF, I wouldn't want to wear pants in Italy's climate, either). Since then there has been a bit of back-and-forth.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 week ago

"Yes I am, and wearing the skirt gives my boyfriend easy access 😎"

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not gay because I'm wearing a skirt. I mean I am gay. But not because I'm wearing a skirt!

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the 00’s I started wearing nail polish. I wasn't sure "why", but I liked it, so f other people's opinions.

People thought I was gay. I was bi, but gay guys didn't find nail polish attractive either, so this was a constant refrain.

(Took me until 2020 to realize I was trans)

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not a sprint it's a marathon 🙏

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why are true neutral, chaotic neutral and neutral evil all the word “ok” though?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago

I like how this means men are lawful neutral, women are lawful evil and skirts are chaotic good.

[–] Schorsch@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago

You can just wear the skirt, be the change you want to see in the world

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Find your heritage/district tartan and you can wear any skirt you want!

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Schorsch@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty sure I'm not, but what do I know.

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[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Just wear that skirt bro.

[–] Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

"yeah but not in the way you're thinking"

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It has to have your tartan on it. Then it's a kilt, and it's fine.

/s

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeeeah when I was growing up there were still old people who went tut tut over us little girls wearing pants and shorts. Dinguses.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why sad you can wear anything :)

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well,.,., nuuuu becuz of thm evil peeps who say de thng in the...in the post,.,

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Afraid of being perceived as ok?

[–] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

nobody can stop me and my freedom in my running kilt

Groundskeeper Willie would like a word.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder why femboys and transfems like wearing skirts now.

Is it because these skirts are inherently feminine, and thus it better matches the personality of the person? Or is it because society connects skirts to women, and want to be shoved into the "woman" category by wearing skirts?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Third option: male fashion fucking sucks?

Fourth option: anatomically, skirts make more sense for penis-havers than pants (though there's a reason why kilts traditionally include a pouch, which might be an issue when penis-havers want to dress in women's skirts or dresses).

[–] ncc21166@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wear them partly because they help me express the (locally, socially constructed) femininity that I feel. I also wear them partly because I have serious trouble tucking, and a flowy skirt is less of a problem than tights. Which is a shame, because my legs look fine in tights.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I so want to try tights, i absolutely have the legs for them. I also probably have the legs to flex and rip them all over tho xD

[–] ncc21166@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Marathon runner and century cyclist here. You have no idea what tights do for the bulked legs. I go from quadzilla to thick thighs saving lives and it's glorious.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Now I really want to try tights. I already had to by thigh high socks on the thicc-er end of the size chart and i ain't even on HRT or particularly flabby in that region

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Third (horny) answer: easy access.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Gender is almost unarguably entirely a social construct. Two seconds in a history book shows this to be true.

It's a learned framework. But with in that framework we have associated sex with gender so intrinsically that separating the two is near impossible outside of a science context. At least in a modern context. This can vary depending on the region and point in history.

So with how linked they are you have skirts to female(gender) in that framework. If you want to identity as female (sex), then you will gravitate to the female gender(gender) clothing options. As a short hand. It's not the only way but it is undeniable that it is one of the easiest.

It's just working with the tools, behaviours and context of the reality around you

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