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[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Enshrining illiteracy is a proud American tradition.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Right? Is there something in big macs that makes people anti intellectual?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 163 points 3 days ago (32 children)

Whether you had fun and the quality of the movie are not entirely related.

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[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

I too have no media literacy

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

dude is stuck at a toddler level

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, I can certainly tell whether a movie is objectively good or bad while watching it, but that rarely correlates with my enjoyment of the movie. I can separate "this is really badly made/has bad writing/is a ridiculous premise" and "this is a fun distraction from the daily routine".

I kind of feel like being unable to make that separation and not being able to enjoy movies that are "bad" must be an exhausting and miserable experience.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Its a very mature and peak enjoyer mindset to be able to separate objectively good from bad AND being able to not feel bad about enjoying the good movie and enjoying the bad one.

Im bored to death watching marvel movies that are objectively kinda good but we had a blast watching only god forbids despite me reccomending people not watch it.

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Saying this as a massive Bruce Campbell fan (i.e. I really enjoy "bad" movies).

While doing anything you can't enjoy would be "exhausting", I assume people who dont enjoy "bad" movies just... don't watch them.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think camp is the same thing as bad. I've seen things that are very campy, but still manage to have compelling character arcs.

It's the issue I had with the Bayformers movies. Having over the top special effects wasn't an excuse for all the characters being rotten.

Evil Dead on the other hand bought fake blood by the barrel, but Ash's decent into madness was the real focus of the story.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

I was about to say, I remember watching movies in childhood that I enjoyed the experience of, but did not take on board. It was a series of lights and sounds. I rate those films Stimuli/10.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 72 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Me enjoying a movie does in no way exclude it from being a bad movie.

Seeing as I do enjoy watching bad movies. Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.

I think there's a certain "The Producers" threshold beyond which a merely bad piece of art becomes a captivating car-wreck. But it's an esoteric mix of elements. For every "Rocky Horror Picture Show" there's a dozen "Mac and Me"s.

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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I'm exactly like that, but the other way around. 90 % of the movies I watch I don't enjoy. Mayhap it's just not my medium. Makes the 10 % I did enjoy realy worth it tough.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago

So do they also just enjoy jingling keys for 2 hours?

Like it's not that hard. You enjoy it or you don't and everyone has a criteria on what's good or not.
Some people like to think about high concept stuff and a good movie gets their moral queries up.
Some like professionalism and it's about shot compositions and good editing.
Some want jokes and as long as they laugh it's good.
Some like Neil Breen stuff that's none of the above.
Truly exceptional movies usually are able to satisfy multiple groups of people and also may get you interested in lines of thought or art that is in a different realm than your normal standard of quality.

Saying you turn off your brain and have no concept other than colors make time pass is beyond a lack of critical thought.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Must be nice to be able to just completely switch off your brain like that.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good movie: the one you enjoy

Bad movie: the one you don't

Simple as that, my metric of scoring isn't good or bad, it's whether i enjoy it or whether it annoy me. I pick what i watch and will go through review and score so most of the time i know i gonna enjoy it, but sometime an outlier will pops up. I'm still not over how annoyed i am for 28 Weeks Later.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That assumes that enjoyment is the only metric, which is common, but not universal.

Some people can think the movie is of high quality, but the subject matter isn't for them, as an example.

Think of it like food:

Good food: the food you enjoy

Bad food: the food you don’t

Unless you're basing good and bad on how "healthy" the food is (for whatever given metric of health you want to use)

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What you're saying makes sense except that's not what OOP was talking about. They weren't asking what definition of "quality" to use.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I mean hey, if you have low standards, and you're completely honest about it, nothing wrong with that... and it also puts the onus on the people with higher standards to actually explain why they do or do not like any given movie, easier to suss out the people who don't actually have consistent standards, but instead just have an amalgamation of their favorite influencers opinions.

Win win win as I see it. I'm a bit of a movie snob, and I can explain why I do or don't like a movie...

But I am also self-aware enough to realize that other people have other standards, and 90% of the time, if there isn't some utterly reprehnsible trope or caricature or very very misleading depiction of real events in a 'based on a true story' type thing... eh, whatever, we have different tastes, wanna get pizza?

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[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Good movies are self-aware. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece of acting and cinematography, or have the best effects, or the best writing. But they have to know what they are. I don't mean breaking the fourth wall or self-deprecating humor. More like understanding their limits.

The people making Sharknado knew they were doing a campy action film (series) with sharks in tornadoes. Fun Movie. Would watch again.

M. Night Shyamalan is a great writer and director, but a lot of his films have a feeling of over-dramatized self-importance, where it seems like he really wants you to know how clever he is. So they get panned.

Chrisopher Nolan (I think) puts similar importance on symbols and archetypes with a dramatic and artistic style, but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.

He can kinda string together the main bits of a plot, but the dude can’t write to save his life.

Rebel Moon had the ingredients for a decent 7 samurai sci-fi thing. But holy fuck did he go so far style over substance with it that all the substance was left out 😆

Same with JJ Abrams, dude makes good visuals and can start a mystery box plot like very few can.

But for the love of all that’s holy, don’t let him decide what’s in the box.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.

I have never been able to set the brightness high enough to see them though.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Books are good when you don't realise you are reading.

Any film that makes you realise you are watching a film (bad sets, acting, dialog etc.) is bad.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like 10% of the time you did not have fun watching a movie. That's a bad movie.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Sometimes bad movies are fun to watch.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Where are you getting your movies? Very few people are just raw-dogging random titles off a database. You mean you kinda enjoyed the movie that the Netflix algorithm showed you? Funny enough, I had almost this exact same argument with a friend the other day about how she "doesn't believe there's any bad movies."

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 days ago

I go to my favorite piracy source and look at new releases. Its like sorting by New+All on Lemmy :)

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Critical thinking is an endangered practice.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Media literacy is a threat to a lot of production houses' business models

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Know how to tell of a person is a movie snob? They'll tell you.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

First of all, the term is actually ‘cinephile’. And second… 😄

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Basically linux users

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm the exact opposite. I struggle to get through 90% of movies regardless of how good people think they are, especially since they only keep getting longer and longer.

Hell, the only movies I can get through are the ones that are so bad they're actually interesting

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Huh. 90% of the time I'm like "this is a bad movie"

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 8 points 2 days ago

Did u have fun is one part of good. So is did it make u think deeply about something, was it pretty, was the dialogue good, did it give u a new perspective, did it make u feel something. Etc etc

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Somebody needs to introduce Thomas here to MST3K. There is no better teacher than experience.

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